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Tuesday, February 7, 2012

Bright-eyed and bushy-tailed

Here's a list of who I consider the more interesting CSM7 candidates who are not CSM6 incumbents.  Each of these candidates have either declared publicly or made it reasonably clear that they are running.  To declare publicly, I would expect to see a blog post, a post on Jita Park, or the equivalent.  For each, I list a very short claim to fame or reason why I think they'll be interesting.  The candidates are listed in the order that I expect them to be "serious" candidates with a good shot of winning a seat.

Confirmed as running:

This post will be updated as I learn more.

EDIT (8/Feb/12): Kelduum has formally announced.
EDIT (9/Feb/12): Iam Widdershins and Blake Armitage have formally announced.
EDIT (12/Feb/12): riverini, Michael BoltonIII, Akekseyev Karrde, and Mike Azariah have formally announced.
EDIT (15/Feb/12): Dovinian is apparently the official TEST candidate.
EDIT (16/Feb/12): Leboe is running as Rote Kapelle's candidate.

34 comments:

  1. 'Troll' candidates, rather than 'tool'.

    I believe T'Amber is also on record as being a troll candidate.

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    1. No, "tool" is appropriate. ;-)

      And yeah, T'Amber is one step above troll, partially for running as a semi-serious candidate last year, partially for past association and name recognition due to Ships of EVE.

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    2. Although "tool" in the sense that I think you mean it isn't quite fair albiet possibly not completely unwarranted knowing how I seem to people, I am useful as a tool for presentation of ideas as per previous serious CSM tenures which I offer regardless of there being a CSM candidacy or not.
      I'd like to be able to give this CSM some serious attention but it seems other things are taking precedent sadly and I presently have no time for campaigning.

      On another note, there are some great candidates this year, it gets better every time!

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  2. Keldumm just posted his plank in the Speaker's Corner.

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67217&find=unread

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  3. I can't choose between inflicting Xenuria, Mintrolio, or riverini on The Mittani...

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    1. To be honest if we vote trolls in we'll get a CSM made up of trolls + goons. The goons will take the devs for a pint after the meeting and implement the real policy in the pub without the trolls there.

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    2. You see, Jester, Mittani, Trebor and all other so called 'serious players' are so focused debating who, if any, candidate will rally the hiseccers they didn't even notice there is another large portion of the player-base without proper representation: the trolls.

      Jester says electing trolls weakens the CSM, since CCP becomes more prone to disband the whole thing.

      I think this is an extreme case. In fact, I think if one of the trolls get elected he can have a positive impact by keep reminding CCP that this is a damn game and people are supposed to have fun with it, even if you yourself decide to call it serious business.

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    3. Her name was mazzillu. She got her CSM seat by being willing to deep throat a banana on YouTube for thousands of horny EVE players. Then she made a CSM proposal about pizza.

      In short, it's been done. ;-)

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    4. The idea of the CSM 'implementing real policy' in the pub or elsewhere, with or without trolls present amuses me to no end.

      It is correct to argue that electing even more trolls than in CSM6 will weaken the CSM. But CCP won't disband it, it will just ignore what they have to say even more than it already does. CCP doesn't care about trolls or not trolls, as long as they keep up the messaging about EVE. And with the pressure to be a 'team player', this is all but ensured.

      For all the 'official' minutes and all that, the CSM has already degenerated into what CCP really wants it to be: a bunch of talking heads generating (positive) messaging about EVE consisting mostly of sycophants to both CCP and EVE; a PR stunt. As long as those 'trolls' keep treading the messaging paths set out for them by CCP in the official messaging, it doesn't really matter if they're elected to the cool kids club or not. Or what they say or don't say in the pub after a meeting.

      The problem with the 'current declared list' of candidates isn't that there are trolls or tools on them, in a way all candidates for the CSM are trolls or tools for CCP. The problem is that none of them seem capable of standing up to the block-vote candidates or to 'call bullshit' on CCP regardless of peer-pressure.

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    5. CONFRIMIGN MITANI IST ALSO TROLL.

      ALSO NOT TO FORGETIGN THESE.

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  4. Keld is indeed running:

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67217

    You may now move his name to the top of the main list ;-)

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  5. Mintrolio keeps puzzling me.

    There is some language barrier in his speech, and there is some trolling (as expected from someone called "me'm trol you" and that types everything on caps), but underlying that he does make some interesting points.

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    1. That sounds like a description of every comment he makes on EN24. He is definately representative of the power of satire in affecting group opinions.

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    2. CONFRIMIGN THENKS YO.

      ALSO VER PERCEPTIVE OF BOTH POASTRE HERE +1 INTERWEBS EACHS. YOU HAFIGN MOR PERCESION THEN MANY OTHRE PEEPOL ;-)))

      ALSO I AM SERIOS CANDATE - JUST NO ONE ASK ME SERIOS QEUSTIONS YET. TRY THESE :)))

      KEEP UP THE GOOD POASTIGN

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    3. Are you in fact Makalu or is he just your translater?

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    4. Makalu is neither smart enough nor funny enough

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  6. Hans is actually more than FW. His platform runs on how to fix hisec/lowsec space as well. I'd suggest fixing it so that he isn't pigeonholed as just 'FW'.

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    1. Hans needs to fix his Jita Park post then. He starts by explaining how bad bloc voting is then moves on to explain that he has the FW bloc supporting him. Not really a well-thought out stand.

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    2. Using the FW bloc doesn't mean he is just running for FW. Read his platform/document and you'll see what I mean.

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  7. Has Alekseyev Karrde [NOIR.] declared yet?

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    1. Not that I've seen, but the moment he does, he'll be listed. Kirith Kodachi endorsed him today.

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    2. http://noirmercs.com/entry.php?28-CSM7-Candidacy-Official

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  8. Two unrelated and off-topic ideas for you - 1.null mega blobs need an isk dump. Their massive wealth drives the proliferation issue and contributes to stagnation. If resources are too easy to come by there's nothing to fight over. Solution: maintenance costs on ships, scaling so that frigates are dirt cheap to maintain and super caps are painfully expensive. Giant fleets of giant ships should have giant costs associated with their ownership. 2.punitive damages for high-sec ganking. Kill somebody with high security status in a high-sec system, pay for their losses and their time. If you lose money and your mark makes money, suicide ganking is only for the lulz, as it should be, right?

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  9. For what it's worth Jester, I think you should write as often as you darn well have the urge to on CSM7. Don't be afraid your readership will be turned off on it. Afterall didn't you grow your blog on the fact that you were running for CSM and covering their activities?

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  10. Since the declaring for candidacy started in the Speaker's Park. I have been attempting to keep up with the posts and the would-be candidate's responses - as well as brushing up on the incumbent's existing threads.

    I have to say, so far, of the announced candidates Hans Jagerblitzen is by far the most impressive. While the other candidates have largely been content to merely announce their intent to run, and then develop their platform through answering questions, Hans seems have come to the game with a fully-fleshed set of planks to make up his platform. Furthermore, his responses (in many venues) have continued to display cogent and consistent responses - which are clearly drawn from that platform.

    I would like the other candidates, especially Keld, to go a similar route and introduce agenda for the CSM seats they wish to sit in.

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  11. Don't know if you consider them a serious candidate, but Iam Widdershins of Project Nemesis/Moar Tears just declared. If anything they're an interesting candidate.

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    1. Widdershins is a total douche, but I guess he'll fight for your right to have neutral reps or something :P

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  12. I am, in fact, running for CSM.

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=67674

    You can decide for yourself whether or not I count as a serious candidate, but I consider myself to be one if that counts for anything.

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  13. I also have to say, I do have strong reservations about being described as a "high-sec ganking" representative. While this is something the alliance we are currently in does a lot of, and we have ourselves done a lot of in the past, it is not something that I seek out -- I am always seeking out good, small-gang content. Small wars and 1vsMany war-dec PVP are some of the most enjoyable things I've ever done, and that is something that I would like to see as prevalent and available as possible, be it in hisec lowsec wspace or nullsec.

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    1. New people running are going to get pigeon-holed. That's a fact of life of the election process. Last year, White Tree was "the TEST candidate", Seleene was "former CCP dev candidate", Mittens was defined as being a Goon, et cetera. Happens every year.

      And the simple fact is that you in particular are going to be defined by what your corp does whether you like it or not.

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    2. I think the issue is the connotation that was put into it and is implied by the term "highsec ganking" versus highsec pvp/small gang or even for example, which is a lot closer to what it really is in in relation to the way the other candidates are organized and feels slightly biased.

      An analogy would be to list Alekseyev Karrde as "nullsec cloaking" instead of small gang or listing a PL candidate as "Supercap ganking".

      I understand most of your blog focuses on nullsec PVP and thats where most of your experience comes from as i've been an avid fan for quite some time now, but it partially makes me question how in touch you are with the current state of highsec PVP.

      I very commonly read most peoples views on what its like and it all seems to be based on things the 0rphanage did years ago, when in reality much has changed. For example, many people mention station games as a part of highsec PVP, when in reality most highsec PVPers tend to frown on that playstyle nowadays.

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  14. You may say that is the case, though you sound like you are saying "you are going to be pigeonholed because I have a very narrow view of what you do" -- something of a circular statement.

    You also seem to be more preoccupied with the actions of the alliance and not the history of my corporation itself. I like the alliance, they are great guys, and they provide an excellent environment for us to have relaxing PVP without spending all day on it in a time of year when many of our pilots are very busy -- however, I don't necessarily agree with their general approach to PVP, and I do everything I can to move them towards better things.

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    1. You don't have to take my word for it. Mittens pigeon-holed you in the 4th post of your own candidacy thread.

      Or you can just wait until you start getting interviewed in podcasts and the like. Guess what the first question everyone's going to ask you will be?

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    2. In reference to the JF busting, perhaps? Hi, I'm one of those guys, who along with Emizeko do that stuff.

      While it's one of the more high-profile things the alliance has done, this activity is limited to a small contingent within the alliance who treat it as a project. Some other mates float in and out now out of interest and wanting to help, then but it's really just a handful of dudes out of the whole, and is by far not at all representative of the alliance's, let alone Iam's raison d'etre.

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