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I'm your host, Jester. I've been an EVE Online player for about six years. One of my four mains is Ripard Teg, pictured at left. Sadly, I've succumbed to "bittervet" disease, but I'm wandering the New Eden landscape (and from time to time, the MMO landscape) in search of a cure.
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Friday, March 30, 2012

Kill of the Week: Polish the sneaker

It takes a lot to get thrown out of TEST Alliance, but this pilot apparently managed it:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12843846

Every pilot in New Eden has a different idea about how much ISK you should spend on fitting out a hull after you've assembled it.  I've seen really expensive interceptors lined with faction and dead-space gear.  I've seen bargain-fit Machariels.  Still, if you were to distill all of these choices down to an average, I suspect you'd find that most EVE players agree that you should spend about as much to fit a ship as it cost you to buy it.

Did you spend 150 million on a Guardian, or 200 million on an Abaddon?  Then pump some money into faction hardeners and Tech2 rigs.  Did you plop down 350 million ISK for a Tengu hull and subsystems?  Then sure, a trio of Caldari Navy Ballistic Control Systems are a good call.  Bhaalgorn leave your wallet a billion ISK lighter?  Then pimp that fit out some because that's a hull that deserves it.  On the flip-side, though, you don't go nuts covering a Tech1 cruiser in all Tech2 hardware; it probably won't live long enough to enjoy it.

And you don't fit 400 million ISK in hardware to a 40 million ISK Drake.  Just... just don't.

Remember, all that high-end hardware works on base percentages.  And if your base percentages aren't all that good, then multiplying them by a few more percent is simply not worth the ISK... or the risk of loss.  In this case, 75 million ISK purchased another whole 1000 effective hit points.  Or about a fifth of second (really!) under that gank squad's DPS.  And that 300 million ISK in faction BCSs gained this pilot a whole 20 DPS... 80 fewer DPS than what he would have gained from firing Tech2 missiles using plain old Tech2 BCSs instead.

No matter how hard you try, you can't polish a sneaker.  Save the expensive hardware for a higher end ship.

Ten minutes after losing this ship, this pilot was kicked out of his corp.  There are limits to what even the most "no shits were given" alliances in EVE will accept.  ;-)

Finally, I would be remiss if I didn't mention this bit of idiocy:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12842852

This is an Erebus.  It uses hybrids.  Hybrids like Magnetic Field Stabilizers.  If you don't know this, then you have no business with a titan.  Donate it to me.  ;-)

24 comments:

  1. Pretty sure we've got that drake beat: http://kb.hard-knocks.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=433

    :P

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    1. That manually uploaded 2bil drake kill is 86 CPU over.

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  2. I might add he has a history of this kind of thing: http://kb.hard-knocks.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=376

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    1. God some ppl have WAY more isk than sense.

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  3. https://kb.pleaseignore.com/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=401215

    This one is pretty good.

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  4. Please point me to the auctions for these:
    "Bhaalgorn leave your wallet a million ISK lighter?"

    ;-)

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  5. I wish a Bhaalgorn would leave my wallet only a million ISK lighter!

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  6. "Bhaalgorn leave your wallet a million ISK lighter" - where did you get a Bhaal for 1mil ISKies, and are they selling any more?

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  7. A Bhaal for only a million? I really hope that's a typo there Jester, otherwise Amarr is seriously overpriced!

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  8. The Bhaal is a bit more than a million. :)

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  9. Jester sir, you are missing the point. Eve is a GAME. check my kill Boards. I've lost 3 zealots in two days to 1v8 groups for fun. Isk is just a pixel that sometimes flashes on your screen. Use it how you feel you should. If test cares that much oh well find another alliance.

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    1. How fun is the game if you are thrown out of your corp and exiled from your friends?

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    2. They are not your friends if they kick you for mistake like that.

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  10. On Blink, OK?!? ;-) Fixed. Sheesh. Six comments that time.

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    1. Haha, I bet a lot more people decided not to comment. It was pretty awesome of a mistake though.

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  11. http://korvuskut.killmail.org/index.php?a=kill_detail&kll_id=12889664

    My recent loss to agressing the Sacrilege while he was attacking corpmates. My memory of gate gun mechanics lasped and he shot me with one missile while the gate guns did the rest. Would have lived had I waited until he attacked me first.

    Also, that total ship and fit cost me roughly 100misk, I bought the launhers, t2 rig, atype repper, and the ctype nos; even though it says 284misk loss. Everything else, I won on blink or got from plex loot in Heild.

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  12. I was in system when that Gyrobus died, so angry with myself for not getting there faster.

    Also, this has to be the dumbest question to ask when a titan is going down:
    "Is TiDi active?"

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  13. *shrugs* Cheap ship, semi-expensive fitting. Acceptable while training for a more expensive hull. If test has issues with this kind of small loses, test has other issues than overpriced fittings.

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  14. Have you ever noticed all turret damage mods have the same icon?

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  15. Those items still had value, even if you got them "for free".

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  16. ..now I have the urge to go lose a deadspace fit Reaper just to have done it...

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  17. Man, it is not even a tengu, whats with the whine? I would totally fit a pve drake up to more then bil if that is what it takes to do hard pve content like 6/10+, c3+, l5s/incursions what not. Being able to do something today for more money beats waiting for skills for expensive hulls (you can always sell the mods after you are done), especially when it means higher incomes immediately. Fitting that maelstrom with all faction that may push up to 2bil to get into incursions is also good too, beats grinding l4s while waiting to get t2 large guns and likes. (just claim things like you have t2 guns, but low on large ac specialization and is remapped int/mem) A extra few days in incursions while waiting for tactical shield manipulation iv pays for the navy invulns which you can sell at the end of the day to begin with.

    If you have money and fit your carebear drake without navy damage mods, you are doing it wrong. I'd put it on a exploration frigate too, because those are ships you should never lose until it pays back itself dozens of times over, even with those mods.

    Getting caught in it, that is what is really wrong.

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    And then there is the snaked deadspace fit link boosted cynabol elite pvp folks.... and people call the vids they spawn as epic.

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