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Wednesday, August 8, 2012

Bonus Fit of the Week: PODLA Drake

So, the real Fit of the Week will be tomorrow, I think.  But to talk about the real one, I'll have to talk briefly about this one:

[Drake, PODLA Drake II]
Damage Control II
Nanofiber Internal Structure II
Ballistic Control System II
Ballistic Control System II

Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
Warp Disruptor II
Stasis Webifier II
Stasis Webifier II
Large Shield Extender II
Adaptive Invulnerability Field II

Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
Small Energy Neutralizer II

Medium Polycarbon Engine Housing I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
Medium Core Defense Field Extender I

Warrior II x5


The Drake has been a FOTW twice, most recently back in March when I talked about the "vanilla Drake".  This one is more mocha.  Considered an invention of Hydra Reloaded, this Drake puts aside the traditional Drake strength of tank in exchange for heavy duty tackle.  Shield HP drops to 13000 and the resists are pretty sub-par.  In particular, you've got kind of a nasty EM hole, so watch out for Oracles in particular.  Still, part of the strength of this fit is that you're hiding in plain sight.  After all, who's going to primary a Drake if there's anything else around?

That gives you a bit of freedom to do some unusual things: like double-web targets the fleet is attacking.  In some ways, this is a direct benefit for your 400 DPS.  Since your target is likely to be webbed, that will make your missiles hit that much harder.  A Polycarb rig and a Nanofiber low serve two functions.  First, they increase overheated speed to 1685m/s, which is great for a heavy tackler.  Second, they decrease alignment speed to 6.4 seconds.  In both cases, the intent is obviously to get on the tackle target as quickly as possible.

As a secondary benefit, though, the PODLA Drake is also a great skirmisher thanks to the extra speed.  If you're not webbing down the primary, the webs in this scenario do a terrific job of slowing down tacklers coming after your fleet.  The neut, likewise, is defensive and intended to be used against tacklers.  PODLA Drakes, like standard Drakes, traditionally use Warriors for extra DPS.  Carry extra Nanite Repair Paste: you'll be overheating more than the typical Drake.  And carry some Synth Crash to increase your HML damage still further, particularly against tacklers.

Other than that, there isn't much to say.  You can find more information about basic Drake tactics in the post above.  But remember, your key role in this particular is tackling.  So don't be afraid to get a little closer to targets than you're used to in a vanilla Drake.

Tackle safe!


All Fits of the Week are intended as general guidelines only.  You may not have the skills needed for this exact fit.  If you do not, feel free to adjust the fit to suit to meet your skills, including using meta 3 guns and "best named" defenses and e-war.  Ships can also be adjusted to use faction or dead-space modules depending on the budget of the pilot flying it.  Each FOTW is intended as a general guide to introduce you to concepts that will help you fit and to fly that particular type of ship more aggressively and well.

17 comments:

  1. Why the Scourge Fury missiles? They have an explosion radius of 215m (vs. 125m for regular Scourge HM). Against tacklers wouldn't you be better off with CN Scourge or even plain vanilla Scourge?

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    1. Carry both Scourge Fury and Caldari Navy Scourge, plus a small amount of Caldari Navy Mjolnir for when only EM damage will do.

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  2. Some questions:

    where does the word PODLA come from? what does it mean?

    How do you calculate alignment time from the in-game information?

    Thanks in anticipation.

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    1. PODLA is the ticker of Hydra Reloaded.

      I just use EFT to get alignment time. I've never known it not to be accurate.

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    2. PODLA or Pod Liberation Authority is actually a corp within Hydra.

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    3. I thought PODLA stemmed from 'Pod Liberation Authority'? Of course it won't be before tonight that I can look it up.

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  3. Blech, this writeup.

    You can (and arguably should) plug the EM hole with a rig. A damage control isn't much use on this, since it mostly provides fake EFT hitpoints in armor and structure.

    One of the biggest reasons for having two webs, which you neglected to mention, is that they enable individual drakes to quickly deal with frigates that bumrush in and scram them. A dual-webbed frig will take almost full damage from HMLs, whereas a non-webbed interceptor is almost immune to them.

    A small neut is basically useless in the fights the fit was designed for because it takes so long to shut down a frigate. Chances are that if you're waiting for a small neut to shut down a scram, you're going to be hardtackled by something bigger by the time you manage it. There's a reason you don't fit a small neut on a vagabond, and the same applies here. Use the webs in conjunction with your missiles to crush tacklers.

    Oh, and PODLA is actually the ticker of Pod Liberation Authority.

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  4. That fit is incorrect - it's not the original PODLA Drake fit (PODLA stands for Pod Liberation Authority, not for Hydra Reloaded FYI, who were the guys who pioneered the fit, especially Hera Darkthorn) but rather Brutis Kahn's take on it.

    Original PODLA fit for reference:

    [Drake, PODLA Drake II]
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Nanofiber Internal Structure II
    Ballistic Control System II
    Ballistic Control System II

    Experimental 10MN MicroWarpdrive I
    Large Shield Extender II
    Large F-S9 Regolith Shield Induction
    Stasis Webifier II
    Stasis Webifier II
    Warp Disruptor II

    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Heavy Missile Launcher II, Scourge Fury Heavy Missile
    Small Energy Neutralizer II

    Medium Anti-EM Screen Reinforcer I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I
    Medium Core Defense Field Extender I


    Warrior II x5

    EM Rig instead of Polycarbon, Nanofiber instead of DCU and an Meta4 LSE instead of the Invuln for sustained kiting.

    Might be also worthwhile to mention the original purpose of them - to operate solo or in teams of two, rotating points whilst using overheated dual webs to keep enemy tacklers at bay. HML range combined with them being faster than armour tanked BCs which were the meta in small-medium gang engagements at the time let them dictate range & hence win fights whilst outnumbered. Their introduction as heavy tackle was only really solidified when Tier3 BCs came out and suddenly webs were desperately required in order to allow them to swat light ships off the field at a safe range.

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    1. Hera might be the best eve pilot of all time. That said, he did not design the PODLA Drake. In fact, he did not have the SP to fly it for at least a year after it was created. As noted elsewhere, it was designed by PODLA well before Hydra.

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  5. If you are going to tackle, why not using HAM launchers?? If you have low EM, why not using EM rig??

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  6. Actually jester podla is the ticker for pod liberation authority, a corp in hydra reloaded [hydra]

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  7. "Still, part of the strength of this fit is that you're hiding in plain sight. After all, who's going to primary a Drake if there's anything else around?"

    "But remember, your key role in this particular is tackling. So don't be afraid to get a little closer to targets than you're used to in a vanilla Drake."

    I don't know, this seems like a giveaway. If the enemy gang notices the drake is deliberately getting close cannot they just infer it's a low EHP tacle fit?

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  8. You might want to add that you need skills to fly this fit successfully. This is not a low-skill fit; unlikely you can even get it to fit at all without AWU5 or implants. If the rest of your navigation and shield skills aren't well buffed this fit can also get you killed in a hurry.

    Also, with all due respect, this is not the original version of the PODLA drake. Here is the original BattleClinic post which generated an interesting and contentious thread of response . . .

    http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/28876-Drake-Naxias-039-Crappy-Drake.html

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  9. PODLA is in HYRDA right NOW, but hasn't always been there, they are actually just a corp in HYDRA. I think when PODLA made this drake fit way back when, they were in their own alliance, and not yet in HYDRA or Voltron. The Ticker for HYDRA Reloaded is [HYDRA] and the corp ticker for Pod liberation authority is [PODLA].

    As for using the PODLA drake properly, it is best implemented with a Fleet bonus Loki or Claymore to allow those dual webs to hold tackle off your Drake and allow you to kill them at range. When PODLA first started flying this fit, they would and likely still do, only really fly them with fleet bonus'. It can be used effectively solo, but it's not nearly as good that way.

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    1. I remember fighting an early incarnation of the podla drake in Mara that was slightly different, the drake was self-skirmish bonusing with an alt in space somewhere (a noobship actually) to complete the fleet. I thought that was quite clever when I ran into 15km webs ...

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  10. PODLA is the ticker of Pod Liberation Authority, or was, before they joined Hydra. Absolutely the best small gang pilots I ever flew with.

    The original PODLA drake, posted by Naxias of PODLA:
    http://eve.battleclinic.com/loadout/28876-Drake-Naxias-039-Crappy-Drake.html

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  11. Hey Jester. Quick question. Are you aware that the newbie ship changes mean that Amarr can no longer be used as a rookie cyno ship without cyno V or an expanded cargo hold. CCP did it unannounced and it appears it was intentional.

    https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&m=1769176#post1769176

    If you start a new character in EVE, you would be crazy to start Amarr.

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