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Sunday, November 25, 2012

New Eden Open D4: Keep things fresh

So, CCP Dolan was out today as a commentator.  In public, the reason is "to keep things fresh."  Hm, OK.  CCP Soundwave says Dolan will be back.  But today, his replacement was CCP Falcon, the former Verone of Veto. alliance.  In the interests of full disclosure, I'll remind you that VetoDOT was a Rote Kapelle ally until their alliance was disbanded.  But Verone himself is before my time in Rote.  I've never talked to the guy.

And that's a symptom of the problem.  Falcon is clearly a smart guy, but he's just as clearly behind the times when it comes to the current in-game fleet metas, and it shows.  A lot of my alliance-mates have come to the conclusion that you can't be a good tourney commentator unless you're thrown into the middle of training for that tournament, and I'm starting to think there may be some truth to that.  That isn't to say that Falcon was bad... he was fine, as far as he went.  But he's got a lot of homework to do if he's going to continue to be a commentator next week.

Specifically, I was reminded of an aspect of CNN's coverage of the U.S. Presidential debates last month.  During CNN's coverage, they had a small focus group of voters watching both candidates with a little dial they could turn.  When these voters agreed with what was being said, they could turn the dial up as high as +10.  When they disagreed with what was being said, they could turn the dial as low as -10.  CNN then showed their reactions in real time.  Dolan's score on such a graph would probably vary wildly, from say -8 to +5.  For me, Falcon never went all that negative, but I don't think he scored higher than about +3 all day.  Dolan has lower lows, true, but he also has higher highs.  As Falcon gains experience, he should get better.  'nuff said, moving on.

CCP Fozzie continues to be great, and now that he's not pulled off track by Dolan all the time, he gave the best commentary of the New Eden Open so far: incisive and informed in all the right places.  Soundwave is back to being his old relaxed self, which was an improvement over yesterday.  The green screen work gets better every day: the lighting on the table is good now, but the ghostly shadow was back, this time behind Falcon.  Sound and video were also fine; in particular, I only counted one bad transition from lapel mics to headsets.  So the technical aspects of the tournament are getting better and better: near perfect this time, in fact.  Keep it up!

I do have one other technical suggestion: take another look at the code that fills the attack bar.  I don't think I've ever seen it more than about 40% full, even when it was all-missile teams, or when Vindicators were fighting Kronoses at perfect range.

The day started at about 2000-2500 viewers, but peaked at a little over 3300 at the end of the day.

The matches today were quite good, I thought, some of the best of the tournament so far!  Again, not a lot of rock-paper-scissors, which was nice.  And a lot of really good flying was being shown on the screen, which was even better.  I was particularly impressed with the flying of The Expendables team, and they particularly against Africa's Finest.  I do have to wonder what the latter team were thinking when they brought Paladins, though.  You're never going to sell me on that ship as a good tourney boat.

Much Crying Old Experts again had an amusing moment; they shared with me that they tried to ban the Opux Luxury Yacht during their second match.  Much like trying to ban CCP Dolan, this request was denied.  ;-)  There weren't a lot of other funny moments today -- the proceedings were much more serious all in all.

Which brings me to those three Malices.  What.  The Hell.  Was the XXXMity team thinking about.  Wow.  Those ships simply had no business being fielded with such a frigate-light team.  When PL used them against Rote Kapelle in Alliance Tournament 10, they were protected in a variety of ways:
  • They were supported by not one but two Bhaalgorns; and,
  • they had a terrific logi pilot backing them up; and,
  • they had significant defending assault frigates; and,
  • PL wasn't relying on them as primary DPS; and,
  • they had PL's best pilots aboard flying them.
Other than the logi, the XXXMity Malices had literally none of that.  So once their logi pilot was killed, the Malices were completely exposed to the death that quickly came for them.  They had no other defenses, and the XXXMity team had to rely on them as the team's primary DPS.  That was just an excellent way to get them killed, particularly given that the RONIN and Pixies team was not exactly lacking in assault frigates on their side.  Nice kills, guys!

EDIT (26/Nov/2012): I have issued a partial correction to this part of the post.

Finally, I'm told that the XXXMity Damnation pilot didn't turn on his five links.  Kinda makes you wonder what he was thinking about, considering that a Damnation pilot has exactly one job...

Six teams left, I believe?  Something like that?  And one of them still has a Rote Kapelle pilot or two on it.  On to day five!

14 comments:

  1. I'm being 100% honest here when I say that I believe CCP Falcon is spending far too much time as a fairly awful community person on the forums and support person off it and that he has turned himself into a fairly ordinary commentator based on his previous work.

    I've seen this before - and not at CCP. A strong community person turns employee and basically diminishes in the role. It's probably come as a bit of a surprise to him that previous in-game credibility counts for not much and it's easy to get out of touch.

    A shame to see.

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    1. This happens because former players confuse the requirement that you sever any past in-game relationships with the need to continue to play the game. Their past knowledge/experience becomes rapidly obsolete.

      All of the CCP devs would benefit strongly from actually playing the game for a minimum of an hour per day, as anonymous members in different corps - PVP corps, indy corps, mining corps, noob corps, etc.

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    2. "All of the CCP devs would benefit strongly from actually playing the game..."

      True. I doubt that Unifex or Soundwave have even spent one hour on Tranquility - in the past year.

      Hey, how about getting Unifex, Soundwave, Tallest, SoniClover, Greyscale, et al to act as match commentators? Then, everyone can see whether or not they actually do have any in-game knowledge whatsoever. My bet is that most of them couldn't even recognize the ships and weapons, without cue cards.

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  2. I could be missing something here but I assumed the damage graph showed the damage done after resists rather then what would be done to 0% resists. Thus unless your attacking something in hull without a DC or a ship with a completely unplugged EM/EXP hole it won't go over 40ish%.

    With that in mind, if I'm not missing something, why would you want to change it? Currently it's showing the total damage mitigation rather then just the speed/sig related mitigation. If you factor out the resists you lose the ability to estimate the effectiveness of remote/local reps before they take place.

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  3. Confirming that all neut malices were our primary DPS

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  4. " They were supported by not one but two Bhaalgorns; and,
    they had a terrific logi pilot backing them up; and,
    they had significant defending assault frigates; and,
    PL wasn't relying on them as primary DPS; and,
    they had PL's best pilots aboard flying them. "

    They had a keres with them
    They were supported by a terrific logi pilot, Tofu
    They weren't primary dps, those are the oracles
    Mity's frigate pilots are some of the best in the game

    If the links had been on, they would have won easily. A terrible mistake, but your decision to attack the setup just shows you are an idiot. Your own reasons sited why you hate it are very inaccurate. Had the links been on, and they smashed through to victory, you'd be singing the praises of their setup. Your post lacks merit, you are just a bandwagon fool.

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    1. Hush now, everyone knows that PL is famed for the quality of their frig pilots (or wichever class of ships you like)
      Its not as if each of the xxxmity pilots has more kills in frigs than the entire PL alliance
      Right?

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    2. But, the links were not on, so it was a fail.

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  5. Have a look at this Killmail Jester, at least this Malice did not have any turrets fitted, and judging by the comment of Michael Harari, the others had the same fit. So how did you come to the conclusion that these where supposed to be primary dps?

    http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15310443

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  6. "CCP Fozzie continues to be great, and now that he's not pulled off track by Dolan all the time, he gave the best commentary of the New Eden Open so far: incisive and informed in all the right places."

    Just as I said in a comment in an earlier post.

    One bad commentator is all you need to pull everyone and everything off-track and right down the toilet. They should have booted Dolan off after the first matches on Day 1 - leaving him on all weekend crashed and burned the NEO.

    I also think it was foolish of Soundwave to say that Dolan will be back.

    This will pretty much guarantee a smaller audience next weekend, since far too many players won't tune in, if there is any possibility that Dolan is going to be on again. The guy is boring at best, and DIAF annoying at worst - famous for being the only AT commentator that forces viewers to actually mute the audio.

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    1. I think it'd be foolish to bring Falcon back. Worse than being occasionally annoying like Dolan, Falcon was incredibly boring. In e-sports games live and die by their casters. I don't think Dolan was doing a terribly great job most of the time, but at the very least he was charismatic and entertaining. I won't be watching another snoozefest with Falcon if he's back.

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    2. @Anon227 (aka Dolan):

      "charismatic and entertaining"? Not.

      Asinine and infantile - absolutely.

      Keep Falcon, permaban Dolan. Pretty clear now that the tournament runs better when Dolan isn't around.

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  7. I disagree. Falcon on his worst day beats Dolan on his best day.

    And, Dolan hasn't had even a so-so day in this tournament, nor in ATX. Nothing but bad - and worse - days.

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  8. I certainly hope that CCP Soundwave continues to "keep things fresh".

    I was just on the verge of not watching anymore of the NEO, 'cause Dolan was making it too annoying to watch.

    Even Soundwave and Fozzie were clearly glad to have a Dolan-free day today. They were both more relaxed and the match commentary was the best its been thus far.

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