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Wednesday, November 14, 2012

The very latest tactic!

And now an important message from Jester's evil twin, Garth.  The opinions of Garth are not the opinions of Jester (unless they are).

This, my fellow evil EVE players, is the pioneering tactic of the new age:
http://www.rotekapelle.com/killboard/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=75845

"But Garth!" you say.  "That is naught but a humble pod owned by capsuleer Solj RichPopolous!  Why should I care?"  You should care, humble pilots, because Solj RichPopolous is the future.  This far-seeing innovator was flying his Curse with a full set of Snakes.  Sadly, he lost his ship.

But only then did his true genius emerge: when his pod was tackled, he immediately started unplugging his Snakes!  This avoiding them appearing on his pod loss-mail!  Is this man a genius, or is he a genius?

Clearly, this is the future of EVE tactics.  Solj RichPopolous, I salute you as a paragon of true evil.

Garth out!

The preceding has been an important message from Jester's evil twin, Garth.  The management apologizes to any and all whom Garth may have offended.  Garth enjoys making bad EVE players famous.

25 comments:

  1. Whoa. You can unplug implants in space?

    Can you plug them in too?

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    1. Implants are essentially boosters that cost more, last longer, and are ever so slightly more legal. They just hurt more when they're purged from your body.

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  2. Would someone explain what the advantage of not having them appear on your lossmail is?

    Not that I don't admire genious evil intentions of course.

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    1. The player involved is trying to limit the ISK efficiency loss, either for himself or his corp/alliance. There's no other reason to do t.

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    2. I think he is trying to make you rage. Op success.

      u mad, br0?

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    3. When the new crime watch comes there is also the benefit that the loss will be less. thus the payout to the agressor less.

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  3. Not an uncommon tactic, and not sure why you'd get upset about it (or for that matter call someone who did it bad). Why give your enemies an expensive killmail to fap over if you're getting ganked?

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    1. I dont think anyone is getting upset, its just an interesting tactic that i for one have never thought of before.

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  4. Because if you are risk adverse you should just stay docked in hisec.

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  5. Solj and his fellow corp members are known for using coward techniques ... I'm not surprised

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    1. Unplugging implants hardly counts as a coward technique. Posting anonymously, not even using an in game character does.

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    2. It's not cowardly. It's hilarious.

      I'm relishing all the #tears calling it "cowardly".

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    3. THis is clearly an eve University account talking ;p they are pretty butt hurt by us owning their blobs ;p

      anyways good article

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  6. I don't think this is a "new" tactic... well, maybe it is in RK.

    However, many folks have been doing this since the first day when pod KMs went live.

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  7. It's no worse that a guy ejecting cargo to minimized the ISK loss on his KB.

    Prior to implants showing on loss mails, the only person who knew how much that pod kill hurt was the pilot that lost the capsule. Today, you get to see how much they've invested in themselves. We see plenty of lazy pilot flying shuttles gate to gate in null sec with a full set of +5s.

    Before we killed pods because we knew that the other guy would be pissed off; now we kill pods just to see what on the juicy insides.

    I've told guys if they get caught, and if they have the time, go ahead and destroy their implants. Rob your opponent of the pleasure of knowing he just cost you 5, 50 or 500 million ISK.

    Course, someone will complain, just like they complained that self destructing a ship should produce a kill mail. That was a valid tactic too, kind of like throwing yourself on your sword, or committing seppuku to prevent yourself from being dishonored in some way.

    But CCP caved to the tears of PvPers who cried "Foul" and screamed "Unfair" when people used it to deny Capital kills. There might have been more capital losses before they made the change, we just didn't see them all.

    As long as the kill mail is the important piece, the thing that a player needs to validate themselves as a pvper, then denying or devaluing a kill is a valid tactic.

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    1. I think this says more about the value the pilot places on killmails than it does on the value their opponent places on killmails. They are the one taking extra steps to avoid hurting their isk efficiency.

      Personally, I think kms are a fairly worthless measure of most things, but are completely overvalued by most eve players who are seeking some sort of validation of their "l33t skillz". They are however, nice for seeing who participated in large battles and putting together battle reports.

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    2. A kill mail is a qualitative measure of how much Happiness you've stolen from another player.

      Destroying implants lets you steal some of that Happiness back.

      I understand if you don't get it. We're probably not playing the same Eve.

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    3. I do not care for folks that place value on kill-mails.

      Getting rid of kill mails would do the one thing that most of the latest expansions have not been able to do: reduce risk aversion.

      Folks don't want to take risks, as they're afraid they will show up on the killboards and ruin their "score". Get rid of the "scoreboard" - end this infantile obsession with comparing epeen sizes - and get our joy from what matters - making the other guy 'splode.

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  8. Once more others prove that I fail at Eve. Eject cargo? Unplug implants? I hear about such things and say "whoa... that makes fucking sense!" and yet I know deep inside I would never have thought of it on my own.

    Fail.

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  9. So how long unil a skript for unplugging all your implants start spreading thru all the Something Awefull/Reddit forums & thier likes?

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  10. it can be argued that you are attempting to limit your efficiency losses by having 'sufficient numbers'. It is not like you are engaging 40+, either, which oracle + recon ( + presumably scimitar, judging from the rapier fit) is certainly capable of doing.

    everyone in eve tries to stack the deck in eve while accusing the other guy of doing it

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  11. How can you tell when someone is unplugging implants in that situation? Does a message pop up for all pilots on grid? Or was this an assumption based on his speed?

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  12. I have used +5s since I could first afford them 6 years ago. When I moved to null everyone said don't wear +5s. On my way to my new home, I was podded. Didn't make me happy to lose 1.5b like that but I replaced them and moved on. When they started with the pod KMs I had to quit wearing them while fighting. While I still felt it was just a cost of doing business in null, the corp and alliance kicked those with big ISK pod losses.

    It was too bad though because as a nullsec miner, I could reship for combat and go after roving gangs and neuts. After the pod KMs, I just POSed up since it wasn't worth jump cloning for short random encounters and I couldn't risk fighting with +5s and mining implants showing up on an expensive loss mail, even if I personally was willing to risk it for a bit of fun.

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  13. I'd realized that a few months ago sitting in a bubble after getting popped in a fleet battle, that way it looks like I was flying with an empty pod (like most F1 monkeys do) despite having had +3s

    Nice strategy indeed for making enemies rage/keeping the KB greener

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