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Monday, February 11, 2013

Kill of the Week: Dumb people

Oh, I was oh-so-sorely tempted to go with this Orca.  Seriously... how dumb do you have to be?  Not only is this Orca fit ridiculously bad, not only does it have exactly zero EC drones aboard, it died solo to a stealth bomber with nearly a full drone bay of light drones!  Moron.  But no, I'll go with something else because people yell at me when I pick haulers or things that look like haulers.  But in my heart, that's the KOTW.  Excellent work, Kynric!  For the rest of you, if you don't carry one flight of EC drones in your Orca, you deserve to lose your Orca.  Simple as that.

So no, I'm going to go with this instead:
http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16245863

When is the proper time to aggress on someone who is suspect-flagged?  Let's just say this: it's not when you're flying a non-PvP fit 15 billion ISK Scorpion Navy Issue, that's when.  But that's what this prize idiot did: he figured he'd get himself a kill-mail on a guy who was suspect-flagged outside a mission-running high-sec station.  Except it's a Vindicator.  Know what Vindicators do really well?  Bump your ass about a mile off the station's docking radius, and then 90% web you there.  And that's exactly what happened to this SNI.

Needless to say, nobody else was quite dumb enough to join this now newly limited engagement, so this SNI died friendless and alone, dropping some four billion ISK in loot on the suspect in the process.  Nice job, bonehead.  Hopefully you have learned something from your rather costly lesson.  You might enjoy this guy's corp's description text.  It doesn't exactly scream "elite PvP corp", know what I mean?

For you mission-runners out there, try not to do anything this dumb, k?  If a guy is suspect-flagged outside a station and you must engage him, I encourage that.  But PvP ships only please.  Never, ever risk your money-maker.  Not once, not ever.

Number of dead super-caps this week: 5

A busier than average week of dead super-caps this week.  The first one of the month and the week was this Nyx.  A travel-fit Nyx, to be precise, apparently killed on the same day its construction was completed, its combat fitting in its cargo hold.  Here's a hint for all you budding super-cap pilots: don't do this.  The combat fit of a super is only allowed anywhere near a super after it's safe in a POS shield somewhere, preferably a POS shield to which only you know the password.  The rest of the lesson is in this story on EVE News 24, which lists a goodly number of mistakes by the new and impatient Nyx pilot.  Hint: several jump freighters are lost in the telling of this story.

Next to die was this Nyx, ratting fit, to a Raiden fleet... the very same Raiden fleet that destroyed this small POS and its carrier defense about 30 minutes prior to the Nyx going down.  I have the horrible sinking sensation that another super pilot didn't get the memo, logged in, warped to the prior location of his small POS, and... yeah.  ;-)  That's just a guess, though.  I wasn't able to find the real story.  Anyone know it?

EDIT (12/Feb/2013):  Apparently,I gave this Nyx pilot too much credit... heh.  An anonymous commenter provides a video and a brief story how this Nyx died and it's even less smart than warping to a destroyed POS.  It's below in the comments...

Next up was this Aeon.  The good news is that a detailed story on how it died is available, courtesy of TMDC.  The bad news is that the story is -- and I shit you not -- 2000 words, ten pictures, and three videos long.  So I shall summarize: "Two super-caps hot-drop dread fleet that was killing a POS, intent on getting some ganks.  Sub-caps supporting the dreads bump one of the supers around until it can be bubbled and ganked with the help of a bat-phone.  This is why your capital fleet should have a sub-cap support fleet."  Fifty words.

Next up, this Aeon.  Story on this one appears to be equally simple: "Hey man, I need to move my Aeon with all my ships and mods in it through Erila.  Can you help me out by lighting a mid-point cyno there for me?"  One more time: if you need to move your super and you're not part of a fleet, provide your own cyno.  Only one person needs to know you're moving your super: you.  You need to know.  Nobody else does.

And finally, just before the buzzer ended this week of pain, this FA Avatar went down, courtesy of the fine folks of the rest of the known galaxy except for Goonswarm and TEST.  Hell, there are Cult of War ships on this KM, who as far as I can tell jumped in via a wormhole from 2010.  Marlona Sky has 1300 words on TMDC about this loss which I will again summarize: "Do you mind if I make the password to the POS your titan is in public?  Don't worry, those PL Machariels are just here to rat."

Why yes, I am in a whimsical mood this evening.  Dumb people do that to me.  Thank you for noticing.  ;-)

26 comments:

  1. You are incorrect about that Shadow Cartel Aeon kill.

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    1. OK, fair enough. What's the correct story?

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    2. http://eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=16302425#comment-793890151

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    3. Talk to General ONeilll, CEO of V.O.I.D, and ask for his story.

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  2. That Nyx in UF-KKH died for much sillier reasons than logging in at a dead POS. He cynoed in off station to aggro bait carriers that were playing docking games when Raiden had gone home after the first drop. And then he sat around long enough for the pilot who got initial tackle on him to de-aggress, dock and switch to a Sabre, then burn the 100km out to bubble him.

    Video from one of the Raiden pilots here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WijySFU3br0&feature=youtu.be

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    1. LOL Wow. Thanks for the information!

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  3. Sounds like Garth got a hold of your keyboard.

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  4. Never heard of a DC?

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  5. Any guesstimate of how many new super-caps are being constructed on an average week?

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  6. Did you really copy paste those Mittani articles in Word to see how many words it was???

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    1. No. I copy-pasted it into NoteTab Pro. ;-)

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  7. I was thinking about half way through, "This guy must be drinking or just giving no fucks this day!" ;)

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  8. Why is it that some pilots take such chances with high isk value ships? Bad luck? Hoping to take shortcuts? Complacency?

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  9. Definitely sounding irritable, Jester...

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    1. Hm, maybe. But this many dumb people in the same week is kind of unusual...

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  10. You're clearly too hard on the orca pilot - ecm drones wouldnt have helped all that much as he would have just bumped him. Now warrior 2s might have done something but the pilot claims to have dc'd.

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  11. Common Jester, those people made mistakes, some of them really big mistakes, but you are gong overboard with all the insulting name-calling. Calm down, no need to insult people for things like that.

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    1. See above. This many dumb people in one week is unusual, particularly when so many of them made clearly avoidable mistakes.

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    2. These people probably made some silly avoidable mistakes as you put it but I don't see why you call them dumb. EVE is not exactly an IQ contest...

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  12. The orca story is not as simple as it appears. I was scouting in my bomber and opened a periodic from a c3 into a c5. The initial dscan was clear and I started looking around. It was clearly a farming system and there was a moros, archon and a pair of lokis in a site. It was our friends TL, good friends but not blue, we enjoy shooting each other.

    A fleet back home was organized on the fly and started burning like mad toward this find. However, TL had their act together and knew almost instantly about the new entrance. After bookmarking a perch at the site I ran back to my entrance to find the orca on the hole clearly intending to close it by rolling mass through it.

    TL did well, quickly realizing I was there, finding the door and moving out to roll it caused, all while most likely muti-boxing. My fleet was too many jumps back so I grabbed the gold ladden orca as a consulation prize. It died fast due to the c5 magnetar effect. A talos and two archons scrambled to its rescue nearly making it.

    Kudos to TL for making it difficult and protecting their shiny site runners.

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  13. Ironically the Orca was carrying ECM drones as cargo

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  14. Re FA titan: Word on the grapevine was initially that he'd gone AFK inside the POS and was bumped out by a spy.

    I can't decide if that is better or worse than what actually happened.

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  15. Upcoming kill of the week has to be the completely unfit chimera lured to a planet by a very masterful con artist. The story goes for me I was out roaming when an old bro " c 3 po " sends me message and says hey man wanna come kill a carrier naturally I jumped at the opportunity and we ended up killing a chimera with no fittings at all. The story from c 3 po the guy who set up the kill was that he told this chimera pilot he would use his Titan to jump bridge him to a nullsec when he warped to c 3 po he had to hold him down for 5 minuets in a catalyst while ringing up old friends and logging on his dread alts and that's why in the killmail a catalyst out damaged some of the dreads


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  16. I know some might not be a fan, but I think this pod should be in the running for ALOD http://zkillboard.com/detail/28519474/

    Note the SOLO OMEGA(!!??) and bear in mind he was driving a bomber.

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