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Monday, July 29, 2013

POTW: They're not built for this!

I'm sure by now you've heard, but daaaaaamn.


I'm not going to cover the fight itself in any detail.  I wasn't there.  But I do want to extend massive kudos to CCP for handling this with as much grace as was possible given EVE's architecture.  ;-)  Seriously, I think CCP did something really clever to keep the game running yesterday and I dearly hope we see a dev-blog about it and would be kind of surprised if we didn't.

Previous record for number of pilots in the same system was apparently set on 30 October 2012 in LXQ2-T, with 3230.  6VDT-H broke that easily.  Highest number I heard about was 4075 (and may have gone higher).  Here's the battle report.  For more about this fight, see the EVE news site of your choice.  TMC has three stories so far.  EN24 has four or five, depending on how you count them.  Note that a titan was lost, but won't be appearing in today's KOTW report because it happened 3.5 hours after deadline.

It's just possible I'll have something to say about the bigger picture when the time comes.

15 comments:

  1. This is why I have brackets turned off. Heh! In a big fight, they just add to the lag.

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  2. Dinsdale PirannhaJuly 29, 2013 at 10:11 AM

    Sorry, can't get too worked up about this.

    The "content creator" winner in this staged thunderdome fight was CCP itself.

    They knew the largest battle ever was set, since both sides have been trumpeting for days to gear up. And if you listen to the soundcloud clip from the Test leader, even Test knew, as everyone else did, that this staged fight was purely symbolic, and had zero implications for the ongoing RMT operations for goons. But Test still planned on flooding the field with cheap ships, and goons clearly saw it as an huge epeen moment to capitalize on.

    So CCP saw an opportunity to create some buzz for the game, and wisely or unwisely, went through what can only be imagined as major engineering hoops, to create the framework to support that amount of pilots in system.

    Now, did CCP achieve their goal of creating a ton of free advertising for the game? Absolutely. The event was picked up by a ton of mainstream media outlets.

    But did CCP actually do themselves any favours by displaying a game at 10% Tidi? I watched MadAni's feed, and he did his best to create a silk purse out of a sow's ear (his pleas for a new computer notwithstanding), but bottom line, for anyone new to the game, the battle was incomprehensible, and worse, boring.

    If CCP truly thinks that advertising that snail pace travesty as the best that Eve has to offer, then wow, just wow.

    More and more I am convinced that all of CCP, (not just the CCP employees who are null sec cartel members), truly has drunk the koolaid and believe "null sec cartels are the future of the game, and we must do everything in our power to allow them free reign, including turning a blind eye to their botting and RMT ops."

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    1. Your right, clearly this was all about Mittens RMT fund, and not about wanting to secure income to feed the CFCs reimbursement programs -.-

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    2. WoW.....if you dont get that having close to 5k players in one system is impressive you must be dumb as hell. Show me what other mmo u have have 5k ppl in a fight? U do and ill show u the soul crushing lag that will make u beg for tidi. how do i know this because I have played eve since 800 was about the limit to crash a server. Im sorry if u dont get why this is impressive considering that the number of ppl in that fight is slightly less then populates an entire server in most mmos. In most games it is not possible to have a fight this big as the hardware will just shit (we know cuz eve blazed the trail). It sounds to me like you will use anything to get your tin foil RMT schemes in the light. the thing is most of the RMTers have left the game. You get better value paying for your accounts with the isk for the 15 bucks tbh. most serious RMT ppl know this and moved on. quite a few large ally fell when they did. You really think mittens needs to waste time to make a few dollars. i know a few grand a week pry sounds like a lot to you but alot of the ppl playing eve have real jobs that pay more. CCP killed RMT with plex AND TAKING ALL THE ISK FROM PPL THAT BOUGHT IT LEAVING THEIR WALLETS NEGATIVE,. deal wtih it man. LOL crying about 10% tidi this noob must have never seen soul crushing lag that ccp used to display.either way u show me a game with this many in a fight anywhere else.

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    3. "It sounds to me like you will use anything to get your tin foil RMT schemes in the light..."

      You got it right when you realized this, and that's when you should stop to think about Disdale's posts. Just a waste of time.

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  3. Saw the killmail for the titan, omg and OUCH. Even the BBC wrote about this battle:

    http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23489293

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  4. my favorite part about the fountain war is getting to read Dinsdale Piranha's tinfoil comments every time you blog about it

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    1. Resource to the community is a go.

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    2. That's not tinfoil, it's a 6 foot thick Iron Ball Paint Layered Foam Absorber Hat II.

      Dinsdale, you my friend need to see a psychiatrist.

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  5. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-23489293

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  6. I've said this before and keep saying it. TIDI may be tons better than the way it was before but it's still shit. Its like Bud Lite is better than natty lite but Bud Lite is still shit

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  7. I wonder what it takes in term of assets to transform the entire Eve backend from current high processor clockspeed design to a multithreading-optimized concept(what seems to be the way Intel/AMD went..)

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    1. Just curious: Do you have a source for the statement that the EVE backend is not multithreading-optimized yet?

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    2. I can confirm High's statement. EVE's source code has been leaked a couple of times (the most recent occurrence a couple of months ago) and EVE -- and in particular, Destiny, which is the part of EVE that makes everything happen -- is indeed single-threaded.

      More about Destiny here:
      http://community.eveonline.com/news/dev-blogs/1771

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  8. As far as I know, a complete rewrite of the code responsible for this.

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