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I'm your host, Jester. I've been an EVE Online player for about six years. One of my four mains is Ripard Teg, pictured at left. Sadly, I've succumbed to "bittervet" disease, but I'm wandering the New Eden landscape (and from time to time, the MMO landscape) in search of a cure.
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Sunday, November 17, 2013

Optimistic

Despite the double-booking issue I mentioned, CSM8 had a really good third Town Hall running for 90 minutes, the first half of which were pre-submitted questions on our announcement thread and the second half of which was live questions submitted by those who joined us on the EVE University Mumble server. Really good stuff, and I was really excited to see a few hundred interested people tune in and/or participate. If you were one of them, thank you!

Here's Ali Aras's blog post with the advance questions and as she joked, "we got to most of the good ones and two of the bad ones."

In particular, I enjoyed one of the opening questions that was submitted by Endovior among others. Here's Endovior's post in full which you should read because it was really well-written. But the gist of his question was:
I'd ask a more answerable question like: "Overall, how optimistic (or pessimistic) are you about the continuing development of EVE?"
And I answered it both in the forum thread and at the Town Hall but here's my response, which deserves its own showing here:
This is a really good post in all particulars. I've covered a lot of what I think about this topic here:

http://jestertrek.blogspot.com/2013/11/the-first-six-months.html

That said, it also deserves some expanding on. The basic answer to your question is "it depends." If you buy into CCP Seagull's vision of space exploration and capsuleer ownership of space that she laid out at Fanfest and consistently since then, then I think you have good reason to be very excited about developments over the next few years. Think about a movie or TV show or book that you like that had a long slow gradual build-up, laying groundwork as it went for several MAJOR pay-offs at the end -- Babylon 5, say, or Raiders of the Lost Ark. If you buy into the space colonization vision, then I can safely say that you have several HOLY SHIT moments ahead of you.

On the other hand, if you do not buy into the vision, then with one exception I think you may find the next few expansions to be not your cup of tea. A few scraps will fall from the table onto everyone's plate, but EVE is definitely on a journey for the next three years and you're either part of it or you're not. As I mentioned though, there is one sizeable exception that doesn't necessarily follow the space colonization vision that CCP is nevertheless going to do that I personally am quite excited about but which is quite NDA. But I suspect CCP will start letting details about this one out soon(tm).
So yeah, really good question! And there were lots of other good questions as well about the minutes, the SOMERblink situation, drone assist, renter mechanics, more about the future of the game... good stuff! I really appreciated how engaged everyone who participated in the discussion was so thanks again to those of you who attended!

For those who couldn't, the recording should be up very shortly at the usual place on the EVE Radio website. I want to again thank DJ Wiggles from EVE Radio and Neville Smit from EVE University for their outstanding support of our Town Halls! Next one will be in early January, probably right before the Winter Summit. Hope to talk to you there!

10 comments:

  1. "On the other hand, if you do not buy into the vision, then with one exception I think you may find the next few expansions to be not your cup of tea."

    Thanks for this hint, time for me to leave this game for good. I don't have enough free RL time to be colonizing an imagined empire.

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  2. "there is one sizeable exception that doesn't necessarily follow the space colonization vision that CCP is nevertheless going to do that I personally am quite excited about but which is quite NDA. But I suspect CCP will start letting details about this one out soon(tm)"

    Damn Jester! Aren't you the tease.

    DireNecessity

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  3. "A few scraps will fall from the table onto everyone's plate, but EVE is definitely on a journey for the next three years and you're either part of it or you're not."

    As a CSM representative you might what to make sure that the journey actually includes a majority of the current players. Incarna didn't and they almost killed the company. Just because you apparently are on board that journey doesn't mean you have buy in from those that don't match your playstyle.

    I'd like to see your numbers for users and how Rubicon will match up against the past expansions.

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  4. CCP Seagull called her eve future vision Space Colonization (not exploration) ... was that a freudian slip jester ;) ?
    I think the term colonization probaply can have two meanings in this context .....

    1. Making yourself comfortable inside your home(system). Probaply with the help of new anchorable structures and a little bit of pos overhaul ?

    2. Depature to new frontiers. The pioniers/colonist on the big treck to west in north america, for example, were in fact the exact opposite of people making themself more comfortable. They had to leave their former homes, mostly out of economic reasons (great famine in ireland 1845), sometimes for religious reasons (pilgrim fathers)

    "Making yourself comfortable in space" is fine, ...players have asked for it, long time. "Space colonization", on the other hand is more ambitious and has the potential to be one stepping stone to break the null sec stagnation

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  5. I work the weekends so couldn't attend so just listened to the recording. A big thanks to you all for taking the time to do this.

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  6. Sorry, owing to RL addressing, I seem to have missed all the action. I have previous requested evidence that CCP has gauged the success of Odyssey? The release of Spodumain with amazing amount of trit does not seem to have any effect in coaxing null to invest in Industry. And since Odyssey has some ground laying elements which are to be carried into Rubicon - how confident can we be about the course/path CCP is taking when the first steps have a lukewarm reception?

    Jester, I feel that CCP catered to the goons over the step back in adjusting the cost of syphons - how do you feel in this regard?

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  7. Only basing this on whats written here, so maybe I missed it, but I feel you didn't really answer the question Jester.

    Do you support or feel good about the direction Seagull is going in? I get what the direction is, but do you, especially knowing what you know thanks to the CSM, feel positive about it? Or are you not in favor of it? Why or why not? (I'm somewhat basing this on knowing you don't believe modular POS or something like that would be a big driver for player ownership/buy-in/retention, and I'm assuming you still believe that?)

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  8. Haven't had a chance to listen to the Town Hall yet. I'm wondering if you see this path as something that the majority of players will enjoy? I'm curious if CCP is looking at subscriber behaviour data, and do they feel that the colonisation theme potentially plays to existing behaviour of large numbers of their subscribers?

    Also, do you think there will be anything for the casual player, specifically within this space colonisation theme? Or is this direction mostly for organised corps?

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  9. It worries me how much it sounds like colonization is going to be aimed squarely and only at Null sec blocs. Who else could build a star gate? That's a long, long time for the rest of the game to stagnate with only relatively minor changes.

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  10. The increase in cost of siphons has been largely due to massive speculation in guidance systems which have increased from ~26k to ~45k per unit in Jita in the last month. Once this speculative bubble is over it is reasonable to expact that they'll drop back down to ~28kish, resulting in siphons that cost close to 10mill each, roughly their original price. (There are still humongous stockpiles of guidance systems from pre-PI days that people are trying to clear so it's pretty much inevitable that the price will come down again.)

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