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Wednesday, December 18, 2013

Mainstream commercial nihilism can't be trusted

Just a quickie.

Dabigredboat perpetrated a pretty epic troll today, making EVE News 24 and others believe he had been banned from EVE Online for supposedly ordering CFC fleet members to take actions during this week's DY- fight that caused the affected node to crash.

Here's the tweet of his announcement, and here's the text of what he put into Pastebin to prove it. It fairly instantly jumped to the #2 or #3 thing being talked about on EVE's Reddit sub-channel:


It is my sad duty to inform you that your accounts have been banned from our server for attempting to cause a server node to become unstable by use of exploit mechanics.

This is a breach of our EULA.

See section 6. A. of our EULA, Specifically Restricted Conduct:

"Your continued access to the System and license to play the Game is subject to proper conduct. Without limiting CCP's rights to control the Game environment, and the conduct of the players within that environment, CCP prohibits the following practices that CCP has determined detract from the overall user experience of the users playing the Game."

(1) "You may not take any action that imposes an unreasonable or disproportionately large load on the System."

See also our Suspension and Ban policy, section 1: Exploits

"An immediate permanent ban of an account may result if:
D. A player has engaged in activity that intentionally causes others to lose connection, suffer latency issues (lag) or to crash to desktop (CTD).

Best regards,
Senior GM Nova 
EVE Online Customer Support
The fun bit? If DBRB wasn't banned today, he should be soon. Section 8 of the EVE Online Terms of Service makes it quite clear that you may not impersonate a CCP employee. I would be quite surprised if this does not qualify.

That said, it might be a short ban.


  1. Didn't happen in game, didn't cause players to do dumb shit, doesn't matter~

    1. There is tons of stuff in the TOS that restricts you outside of the game... I'm not sure why people think that matters.

    2. Yep. The most famous ban in EVE history happened for something done outside game. Doesn't matter~

  2. Where does it say he wasn't actually banned?

  3. should be a permaban as an example to everybody else?!

  4. It's a terrible troll as it's the kind of heavy handed, knee-jerk reaction you would expect from CCP.

    They quite like retribution on customers.

    Seems to be a core quality.

    Who knows - they might still be considering it.

  5. To be even remotely fair EveNews24 reported it as a question, not a fact and with the tweets of those who thought it was a troll. Please report a bit more fairly, they weren't as naive as you are claiming.

    1. They were fucking retarded... They even said that there was "overwhelming evidence" showing why DBRB got banned.

      Literally a bunch of shitbirds.

    2. As a journalist, you NEVER single source a news article like this. Not once, not ever. EN24 falls into this trap all the time. It would have been quite simple to send an e-mail to CCP Manifest and ask for confirmation. That's his job, in fact. EN24 is never going to be a serious game journalism site until they start doing this kind of thing.

    3. wat. they do it all the time. you mean they never should, or do you actually think they practice what they preach?

    4. As I just said, they do it all the time. They never should. I get crap like this sent to me all the time and I file it until I get a second source.

  6. "Despite the overwhelming evidence that Dabigredboat did try to crash the server, some are still sceptical of the tweet"
    doubtful as fuck

  7. It seems to me that not only did this guy give the order to crash the node, he's now rubbing CCP's nose in it.

    However I don't think there will be any action as Goons and CCP are as thick as thieves.

  8. Since he didnt pretend to be ccp just posted a fake mail that has no effect on anyones game, he wont be banned

  9. Yes they could've asked CCP if they banned someone but it's unlikely CCP would release such information. In MMOs bans or other actions taken against players are considered private and not allowed to be discussed. This is also true with any private communication between GMs and players. I would have to look at the Eve TOS to see if these rules are in there. Sadly I'm like most people and click "ok" when the EULA and TOS pops up.

  10. Conventia UnderkingDecember 29, 2013 at 9:46 AM

    CCP could ban him much like they could ban anyone for any reason, but they won't because he didn't impersonate a CCP employee while using their systems and therefore, they can't prove it was him and additionally, they can't police content on arbitrary websites that may or may not look like CCP related communication.


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