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Wednesday, February 5, 2014

Quote of the Week: Be excited

If you haven't been paying attention to the EVE Community site, it's been counting down to something for a week now and in an hour from now (as I write this), the countdown will be over. There have of course been various theories across the player base (particularly on Twitter) about what the counter is counting down. Best theory?
@EVE_WOLFPACKED: i bet the timer will end and it will be all like "timer feature test complete, stay tuned for timers you should be excited about"
Hee! Yeah, that's the quote of the week.

Anyway, by the time you're reading this, the countdown is probably down to zero and you can go see what it's about.

EDIT (5/Feb/2014): Trebor Daehdoow has an alternative theory. Drackarn over at Sand, Cider and Spaceships does a good job of listing a lot of the more popular theories as to what the counter is about on his blog.

EDIT (5/Feb/2014): And the actual cause for the countdown is now public, and I think it's pretty freakin' cool! Go out and have a look.


I look forward to seeing it at Fanfest. And in particular, if you have members of your corps that are no longer with us, please see the procedure in Falcon's note about how to make sure they're remembered.

79 comments:

  1. Service Unavailable

    HTTP Error 503. The service is unavailable.

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  2. When it got to 0:00:00, the site crashed with a 503 error.

    I don't think I could've imagined anything more fitting.

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    1. Yeah, I have to admit being amused by that.

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  3. It seems that the big announcement is he breaking of the web site :)

    Who'd have thought?

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  4. o7 to fallen friends and here to new ones

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  5. Biggest waste of money i've ever seen!

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    1. I've seen bigger, but if you don't count government projects, then yes this is a pretty significant waste for a company that has had to lay off employees recently.

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  6. It didn't desserve a troll and I don't see how you can find this "freakin' cool".
    Apart of course from that fact that you're getting a full page off it.

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    1. Step back a bit and actually think about this for more than eight seconds and you'll realize how cool this is.

      Put in firm Garth terms: have YOU done anything in your life yet that was deserving of a statue? If you have, fine. If you haven't, maybe you should close the hole you're breathing through.

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    2. Ok, I've thought about it for a full minute...No Jester, this ISN'T cool. This is a waste of fucking money and with all the problems EVE faces to see that THIS pile of steaming shit was an obvious focus for a few months just makes me realize that EVE, at least from a managerial/ownership position....is fucked. This cements it.

      So glad to know that Mental-masturbation is alive and well in Iceland.

      Its a fucking waste of time, cash and effort for something that 99.9% of all EVE players will never get to see...and no matter how you try to spin it bud you will only dig that hole deeper.

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    3. Counter point: Have you? If only those people who have done things that have monuments built to them may judge the worth of a new monument...well, I'm sure you'd be able to follow the line of reasoning from here on out.

      As for the monument itself, I feel a gold phallic object with sharp metal spikes would be more fitting to Eve Online than...that...abstract art?

      I'm not a creative/artsy person and do not see what all the words by those posted in the site see.

      From what I understand it's profit neutral so I'm fine with it.

      That said, maybe I'm just a bitter cunt as the 7 day countdown was just another thing to ignore until I see something solid.

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    4. Yeah, you... anonymous person. If you're not at least Lenin, you shouldn't talk. Or write. Or something.

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    5. To tease a /gaming/ community with a countdown to a /piece of art/ is 'cool'. It's more an issue of audience than what I specifically think of the monument itself. I think you are reacting mostly to the dead players part, and are particularly sensitive to it right now. As suggested by your Garth comment.

      It bears little meaning on most players, doesn't improve the game, and doesn't do anything to bring and retain new players in. I'm not saying it's a waste of time, I'm only saying it wasn't something to TA-DAAA!! about.

      And had I done anything others thought was worthy of a monument built to me, I would point out that only one man did and that isn't me.
      -Bantara

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    6. Xaer I do get your point (And feel your monument has more merit as well...so kudos) but what I keep seeing is Distraction on the part of CCP and no real meat on the bones. per se.

      I'm sure they're all giddy with all the new subs...Yaaa for them and the 2% of the 65K who stay longer than a year once people realize that that shizz ain't going down in Highsec..

      I mean, seriously..."Ooo, we have a statue"...so? Its in fucking Iceland, it will never be seen by 99,9% of the players so aside from Hilmar walking by it `erry-day and getting a chubby for how awesome he is the sum total of this thing is still Dick.

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    7. More quality logic from Jester, go figure.

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    8. Jester said: "Put in firm Garth terms: have YOU done anything in your life yet that was deserving of a statue? If you have, fine. If you haven't, maybe you should close the hole you're breathing through."

      There are two kinds of monuments: those which de Power erects to display its power, and those which the People builds to do justice.

      All for the players, without the players. That's Hilmar's privilege. And we certainly should shut up our mouths until we're willing to "wow" properly at Our Overlord's generosity towards Us the underserving guys who just paid for the thing with our subcriptions...

      All in all, he could just had bought himself a boat and stencil our names all over the hull as homage... XD

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    9. Actually, the monument was dedicated to EVE players, so he did, sort of. Paying for a monument to be dedicated to themselves would have been pretty uncool on CCP part.

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    10. @asubbotin

      Considering that all the names on the monument are fake, this really is just a tribute to either 1) people who don't really exist, or 2) the company who owns and created the game which these fictional characters are a part of.

      I'll let you decide which is worse.

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  7. Look I don't want to be all bah humbug and everything, and yes it is actually cool and its actually pretty nice about fallen friends and my name (several times) in lights, but seriously... we need some new stuff in the game and urgently and I really wanted it to be some new information about new things to look forward to doing. Please tell CCP to get some new information for us to be excited about in game coming to a computer near us soon cause quite honestly, I am close to taking a long break and many of my WH'ing corp are too and with null sec quietening down... are people going to keep playing. Sure active active accounts and money in the bank, but when the content generators stop generating content other players relying on this content to do their content creation run out of things to do and wonder why they are continuing to play this game with years of sucking chest wound fixing and not much to actually do that is 'wow thats cool' /sigh. Rant over.

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  8. Yes its cool. Yes I am glad they did it. But a 7-day countdown for something they announced 9 months ago....?

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  9. Your CEO should submit KaTurN's name to the memorial!

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    1. Way ahead of you. But yes, hopefully other corp CEOs will think about their fallen.

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  10. I can't wait to see this thing covered with fatbee stickers.

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  11. As far as I understand it. One of the towers will have the main characters names etched on it. According to the site, active paying (dunno of that counts plexed accounts or if they need to pay for the specific month?) as of march 1 2014. Looks like I'll need to get a trip to a fan fest for a picture of my char in stone.

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  12. So, no matter how much time and money you've spent on EVE in the last 10 years, unless you're active on March 1 2014, you will be ignored...

    I feel middle-fingered, frankly. -^o^-

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    1. Especially since Hilmar's comments seemed to indicate otherwise:

      "To that end we are creating a monument to all EVE players whether they are currently flying or who have long docked their ships."

      To me, that seems to indicate that they were going to include anyone who had ever played the game (or at least anyone who ever had a paid subscription, i.e., not just a trial account).

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    2. Yup...some of us who no longer play contributed a thing or two to the game in our time. Ah well. I guess those who feel strongly enough about it (I don't) won't mind forking over the cost to activate their account in order to guarantee themselves a place on the monument. Wonder if the active accounts graph will show a big spike for Feb 2014 when all is said and done. -- Mynxee

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    3. @Mynxee: Meanwhile, in EVE-Oflfine land, PCU has dropped to 2012 levels and new character births have shrinked by 30% in a year. So much for a potential spike on active accounts...

      @Anon347, with CCP it's always what they *do* rather than what they *say*.

      If it was *my* businesss, though, I would allow in anyone who had been subscribbed longer than a month and filed a petition. If they still read about the game and care enough to ask to have their name on Hilmar's monument, make it so!

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  13. *checks calendar*
    No, it's not April 1 yet... And the monument is funking ugly.

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  14. So where do the names of the recently retrenched CCP employees go on this expensive monument?

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  15. I thought the countdown was for the reveal that Valkyrie is going to be a launch title for Oculus Rift, which I saw as a regular news story on Google earlier today. Was ready to gloat that my prediction of "an announcement to tell us we should watch for further announcements" was spot on.

    If this monument thing is what it was all about then (with all due respect to those departed souls) color me unimpressed. When the servers finally go dark so will this meaningless assemblage of pixels.

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  16. Ripard, you actually thought this was something to be excited about?

    *shakes head*

    Oh, how the mighty have fallen...

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    1. Apparently, I'm just not bitter *enough* yet. Can you teach me how to be even more bitter?

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    2. Just explain to me what exaclty it is about playing a computer game that is monument-worthy? To answer the question you posed to another Anon, no, I haven't done anything in my life that was deserving of a statue. I still haven't, and an undeserved monument is a monument without meaning, so why should I get excited about a hollow gesture?

      Who is going to care about a publicly displayed list of people who once played a computer game? Correction: who is going to care about a publicly displayed list of fictional characters who once existed in a computer game? I really couldn't care less about the opinions of anyone whose world view is such that they would think such a monument signified any sort of worthwhile achievement. There are real accomplishments in the world deserving of such recognition; playing EVE is not one of them, and pretending it is demeans those who are.

      It's like giving out a trophy to every single kid on the losing peewee football team, and then trying to say that those trophys are just as meaningful as a superbowl ring.

      If you honestly believe that playing a video game is deserving of being placed on a monument, then you have lost all perspective on life.

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    3. It's not being bitter, Jester, it's being an ungrateful prick.

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    4. Just write "Why are they doing X instead of fixing sov?" where X is anything.

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    5. Just post enthusiastically about something you think CCP has done well. The EVE "community" will do the rest.

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    6. Nah, you have just been caught up in the CCP internal hype machine. Once you get out of the CSM it will become clear to you again.

      I worked for a guy years ago and he built an awesome company, but as it grew it kind of out grew him. He was still at the top but made bad decisions and eventually fetched people in to run the day to day business. Whenever you talked to him all he wanted to talk about was what he did in the past, how amazing he was when he set up the business, how he built "all this" with his own two hands. He looked back because he didn't have the ability to look forward.

      Anyway he started to worry about his legacy. We ended up with a multi million pound lobby filled with pictures, items and other stuff from the past. It was to inspire the staff by showing them they were part of something bigger than they thought. On a path, a journey together.

      Anyway we sacked about 30% of the workforce the same year.

      The more I listen to Hillmar the more I see my old boss.

      Yes the monument is cool. The thing is can't you see the disconnect between Hilmar being excited about this and then him expecting after a week of hype the players to be just as excited? If this had just been a Devblog the majority would have gone Meh, and moved on.

      THE COUNTER WAS STUPID. It turned something that would have been seen in a positive light into something that was seen in a negative light.

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    7. What did you expect Ripard? EvE is FULL of self-important entitled children... if CCP does anything that does not DO something directly for them, they will hate on it... Me Me Me....

      Gods I sincerely hope the ubiquitous 'Anons' will finally ragequit as I am tired unto deth with their sophomoric self-indulgent hating and ranting...

      How many GAMES in the history of man have engendered anyone to go to the trouble of creating a real life (not pixels Anon-1:11) permanent monument? I for one, am amazed that the name TurAmarth (same as Mabrick, TurAmarth is the virtual name I have had since DOOM first came out on floppys... for like 21 YEARS now...) will be permanently etched in stone.... weird but very very cool.

      Of course this does lead to one wondering what people in the far future will think when they discover this sculpture after the next Ice Age recedes and it is left behind as a glacial drop in Wales... LOL

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    8. @TurAmarth

      You want to talk self-important? What do you call being memorialized for playing a video game?!?

      Does anyone understand the idea of keeping things in perspective anymore? If you want a monument, go doe something worthy of a monument. Sitting on your duff shooting space pixels does not count.

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    9. TurAmarth...when its my $$ being spent and after years with the same problems STILL part of the game...yeah, I can bitch....I can bitch all day.

      30 Seconds after CCP closes its doors at some point in the future, this steaming pile of mental-masturbation will be gracing a landfill or will make a lovely natural reef off the coast.

      Maybe the fact that no games HAVE done this should have crossed their minds as well...

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  17. I, for one, was delighted by this announcement.

    LR

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    1. So was I. But apparently we're in the minority. Sheesh.

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    2. I'm really taken aback by this to be honest. I mean just the joke potential! "I have monumental news! I'm on a monument!"

      LR

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    3. This is one of those things that's going to have to be left alone for a bit before people learn to appreciate it (like next time you have an argument with a WoW fanboi).

      I know I didn't think much of it until I talked to other people about it. It's a conversation piece, something that's going to be mentioned whenever a discussion about community happens.

      Naturally, that's only going to matter to those that care about community.

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    4. @JC Lewis

      The conversations I've usually had about it have all gone along the lines like this:

      Me: "So EVE is building a monument with all the characters names on it."

      Non-EVE Gamer Friend: "So?"

      Me: "So it's like, this massive stone thing in Reykjavik."

      Non-EVE Gamer Friend: "Wait, this is in the game, right?"

      Me: "No, this is real. It's going to be a huge stone monument. In Iceland."

      Non-EVE Gamer Friend: (blinks while a look of confusion crosses their face) "That's dumb."

      I've had several such conversations in the past couple of days. A few of them ended with the exact same phrase: "That's dumb." So yes, it's a "conversation piece," if you want to have a conversation about the stupidity of CCP's business decisions.

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  18. I am sad that you are support this waste of time and money. Give me a reason to keep playing or training skills. I expected someting epic about the new content they had planned.

    Wastematrix

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  19. Kind on an expensive way to go for a new PCU record......

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  20. I dunno what the other anons are on about, maybe they wanted magical nullsec unicorns or something.

    I think this monument is awesome.

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  21. Really, who builds a monument to themselves? That's all this is; it's not about the players, it's CCP stroking their own ego!

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  22. I have never understand the huge amount of self-entitlement players invest into a video game. Exactly why does CCP have to invest every resource into "space ships"?

    For the record I truly appreciated the serious amount of effort that went Incarna. The instant dismissal by the volume of the player base is a travesty.

    On a micro scale; any player should as a yard stick ask themselves within Eve would they fly only ever the one hull? Then on the macro scale; realise that CCP does not want to fly the same (space) ship and would like to diverse into facets of game development.

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    1. I have no problem with CCP working on different facets or projects for game development. A stone and steel monolith is not game development.

      Hilmar has erected a monument to himself and his own perceived greatness, and has couched it all in the idea of it being "for the players." That right there is a slap in the face. This is not for the players; most of the players will never see this at any time in their lives. Anyone who does see it (mostly just the Reykjavik locals, I'm sure) won't care at all who the players are or were. Long after EVE's servers have gone dark, and CCP has folded or been bought up or split up, there will still be a structure standing on a frozen little island bearing a list of thousands of names of people who never existed. Who is going to care about that?

      As the head of CCP, Hilmar is free to do whatever he wants with company resources, but he does not get to hide his personal ego trip behind "it's for the players."

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  23. It is a pretty cool gesture. I have to admit that lately I've been a little skeptical about CCPs commitment to EVE. A monument like this is a pretty clear indication that they're nowhere near looking at the end game. The gesture has inspired me to be a little more patient. I hope that some of the folks I played with early on are reading the announcement and come back at least long enough to be memorialized. (I also hope that EVE has something for them that will inspire them to stick around a while). I'm a little disappointed that so few of the comments here express appreciation.

    -Crash69

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    1. I would be afraid that the opposite may be true. What if Hilmar sees the end approaching, and fears that CCP might not last, so he decides to build a monument to ensure his legacy. Even if the company fails, he will be remembered!

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  24. well tahts explains the massive increase in new accounts over the last week or so. the goon CSM rep leaks the news on internal forums and the goons have been busy creating new mains with delightful names like

    "penis penis penis"
    "cock gobbler"
    "ass rapist"

    and so on

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  25. BraverthananyoneelseFebruary 5, 2014 at 10:44 PM

    Oh my, the bitter is strong in the vets here o.O

    I think that it is not only an awesome and bold move by CCP but a tribute to all the players.

    I now just need to create a lot of alts with silly and offensive names :-P

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    1. And that's why this monument is a joke. Just think of all the sorts of names that will be carved into its surface...

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  26. Next in Eve Store: The Eve Monument Salt&Pepper Set.

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  27. It's not about being bitter.
    It's about looking at it objectivly and realise that CCP are spending time/money/effort on something that is utterly useless from a gameplay perspective.

    The list of things that CCP could have focused on instead of this shitty monument/statue/ is pretty long.
    And to top it all off this "monument" is a blatant ripoff from Barbara hepworths Three standing forms!
    But hey, Keep spending submoney on things other than the actual game.

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  28. What are we going to count down next? How long it takes for the coffee machine to be fixed?

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  29. It hasn't come up yet (that I know of), but as a CSM representative, could you please find out for us what happens in three scenarios? 1) Fallen Eve player is a member of an NPC corporation. Who submits that petition for them to be included on the memorial? 2) Fallen Eve player is a member of a corp that consists of only their own characters. Who submits that petition for them to be included on the memorial? 3) Fallen Eve player is the CEO of the corp/holds those roles. Who submits that petition for them to be included on the memorial?

    We were speaking of this in Eve tonight, and someone may have filed a support ticket about this, but would appreciate your efforts toward finding out the answers. I have a feeling this just wasn't thought through all the way, rather than CCP telling us that playing Eve under a specific game mechanic is a pre-requisite for the community to recognize and remember its fallen in such a thoughtful, honorable way. I think a clarification would be a very good thing.

    Many thanks,

    Boiglio

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  30. If they troll their player base, they do it in Style.
    This was a good one! :-)

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  31. One of the best parts of the monument is that the artist formerly known as Poetic won't be on it.

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    1. Actually, that char is still active. I don't know who "owns" the char, but I have it on my watchlist.

      And the monument idea is dumb. I would prefer a monument built to dev's AFTER they fix any of the plethora of legacy code screw-ups we have now.

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  32. "CCP needs to fix the game." "We need new stuff ingame."

    Good Lord people. How many CCP employees are going to be re-deployed to the foundry to smelt this thing then engrave it ?

    Really ? Really.

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    1. You keep posting this same hyperbole in the forum thread as well, and it's just as idiotic there.

      Obviously no employees are going to be physically building this thing. But how much did it cost, and how many dev's salaries could that money have paid for? These sorts of sculptures often have costs in the hundreds of thousands (USD). Keep in mind, CCP recently laid off a fair number of devs. This is not exaclty the brightest move for a company in a questionable financial situation, not to mention during a bleak global economy. It's a bit opulent, irresponsible, and pretentious.

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  33. While I do think the monument is neat, I won't be purchasing a plane ticket to Iceland to get a picture of my name on it anytime soon. If I ever find myself in Iceland I would stop by it however.

    I don't think most of the hate is stemming from the actual monument itself as to the method used to present the monument. The count down timer was a poor method of unveiling the monument in my opinion and a simple headline as you logged into the game or a dev blog revealing the monument would have been equally as effective at reaching the players that care about the monument while not upsetting those that were hoping for a game changing event at the end of the timer.

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  34. Just explain to me what exaclty it is about playing a computer game that is monument-worthy? To answer the question you posed to another Anon, no, I haven't done anything in my life that was deserving of a statue. I still haven't, and an undeserved monument is a monument without meaning, so why should I get excited about a hollow gesture?

    Who is going to care about a publicly displayed list of people who once played a computer game? Correction: who is going to care about a publicly displayed list of fictional characters who once existed in a computer game? I really couldn't care less about the opinions of anyone whose world view is such that they would think such a monument signified any sort of worthwhile achievement. There are real accomplishments in the world deserving of such recognition; playing EVE is not one of them, and pretending it is demeans those who are.

    It's like giving out a trophy to every single kid on the losing peewee football team, and then trying to say that those trophys are just as meaningful as a superbowl ring.

    If you honestly believe that playing a video game is deserving of being placed on a monument, then you have lost all perspective on life.

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    1. Sorry, this one was a double post, thought it got eaten!

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    2. "If you honestly believe that playing a video game is deserving of being placed on a monument"

      I don't see anyone here believing that, because nobody here asked to be put onto a monument.

      What I see is CCP wanting to give a thank-you to their customers, who helped them thrive in a niche in a cut-throat market, by putting their names into permanent form, with the monument being able to serve as piece of art even long after the names became meaning less. I didn't ask for it, but I find it neat nonetheless.

      But you are welcome to petition CCP to have your name(s) specifically excluded from the monument, if you feel that strongly about it.

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  35. Jester,

    1) Your short essay on the announcement site was quite nice. Good work.

    2) Let us not forget that Iceland is a rather small place meaning CCP is a surprisingly big deal there. Sure a monument to their sandbox MMOG is filled with hubris. This is a surprise? Ten years of hubris has made them a big fish in their little pond. We should expect them to suddenly go humble now?

    3) It is a little odd to contemplate that my character will be etched in concrete while I, the hands behind that character, probably won’t (grave marker excepted). Note to self – Endeavor to be more important than your virtual character!

    4) Hilmar thinks I’m an artist! A beautiful, beautiful artist!

    DireNecessity

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  36. I don't know about this monument thing. It isn't a monument to the players - it is a monument to CCP in their home town so that Iceland can see how great they are. Massive backslapping exercise and corporate circlejerking.

    Also our real names wont be on there, just our pixel spaceship names. Hardly something anyone is going to care about once the servers close down.

    There is also a finality to this. It *feels* like the kind of thing you'd do right at the end.

    And no, it hasn't diverted dev resources or whatever...but what it has done is cost CCP a small fortune. Monuments are not cheap things to make. That small fortune could have been spent fixing POSes, or employing more devs to speed up the ship balancing etc.

    I don't know. It's cool I guess. But it feels like the same kind of deluded self congratulatory shit that got them into the Incarna mess.

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  37. Tinfoil hat time... Whats the tentative release date on the summer expansion? Just wondering if the March 1 sub deadline to get your name on the memorial falls near the time we would expect dev blogs to be hitting about the main features for the next expansion. If CCP finally starts to deliver on their promise for the next expansion set the memorial sub deadline may be a clever ploy to get more people invested in the next expansion.

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  38. Do I think that the monument is a beautiful, moving, extraordinary tribute to the countless thousands of players, past and present, alive and fallen, who have made the EVE universe what it is today? It is exactly that, so of course I do. Has any other game, anyone else has ever played, immortalized its players in a similar fashion? Probably not - and that's why we admire and respect CCP. They do crazy shit but they do it with unmatched style and panache.

    I'm not even about to get into the whole "but this money could've been better spent on X, Y, Z," because that's just stupid. No one making that comment even has a clue what the thing cost to build. Or if it detracted from the development process in any way. And what's next? Does CCP hq need new carpeting or computer parts? No! That money could be better spent on fixing X, Y, and Z!! If you succumb to that logic, players would have CCP devs living in cardboard boxes eating out of dumpsters to maximize their cost/epeen benefit ratio. I feel the same way about "but 99% of players will never see it." Most wont see Iceland or CCP hq either, but it doesn't mean CCP should demolish the building and have devs teleconference from home.

    The problem to me, as has been rightly noted by just about everyone, was that damn countdown timer. It served only to raise expectations to a level of omg I haven't seen in a while in a community already full of swollen heads. Rumors of walking in station being released were rampant. Valkrye. Twitter blew up. So when a cold piece of granite a thousand miles away, meant to serve as a solemn tribute and memorial of sorts was the reveal, its not that surprising that the vast majority of people felt disconnected. People appreciate monuments. But they usually aren't commemorated with fireworks and parades. It's almost always a low-key ribbon cutting of sorts. If it can't be eaten, fucked, or shot in game, most people won't care. The countdown timer though told them that they should care so when it ended, well, surprise, they still didn't. It was simply a PR error, imo.

    But when I see comments in the EVE Radio chat like:

    [ 2014.02.05 15:40:46 ] CCP Manifest > Man, harsh times... Maybe I shouldn't come here to talk about things I'm excited about!

    I think: what were you expecting would happen? Don't chastise players for what really shouldn't have been an unexpected reaction. Ppl set their alarm clocks to wake up and be here for this announcement. I know I did. So many logged into the monument page at once, it crashed. The timer did it's job. People were excited!! As a tool, it worked fine. It was just the wrong tool for - this - job.

    I still want to know what quote will be inscribed as this matters almost as much to me as the placement, design or purpose. But to justify and defend this monument's construction, I think Ripard said it best:

    "the members of the CSM couldn’t help but imagine all the pictures that will be taken at its base in the many, many years to come. Sure, a few people will bring their spaceships. And sure, a few people will bring their technology. But mostly what we’re going to see pictures of at the base of that monument are people. There will be people in singles, and people in tens, and people in hundreds. They’ll stand at the base of the monument and celebrate this game about spaceships and relationships that’s brought us all together."

    So I think once the dust settles and people move on to the next big thing to bitch about, this will ultimately be what it was meant to be - an enduring tribute to the community which immortalizes EVE in a very real and existential way. Until then, CCP might have to deal with a bit of blowback. But since this 'failure to live up to hype' negativity is largely a product of their own machinations, hopefully they can react to it with the same grace and humility they expected from us when the timer ended.

    Yonis Kador

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  39. I have to laugh at most of the hater comments here.

    (1) I wonder what percentage of CCP’s annual revenue they are spending on this. I’m betting it’s not a ton. This reminds me of NASA haters who say “those billions of dollars should have been spent on feeding poor people, not wasted on space exploration.” When NASA’s budget is in fact under one percent of the USA’s total budget, and we already do spend about 300 times NASA’s slice on entitlement programs (whether you agree with those programs is not the point here).

    (2) In the future, this monument will not just represent “some people who played a game once.” It will be about one of the earliest, successful, and most immersive virtual worlds in humanity’s history, and the community of that world. Do you think virtual worlds are a fad or will become ever-more immersive, large, and inclusive? With efforts like this and the MOMA exhibit, CCP is rightfully staking their (and our) claim in the historical record.

    (3) This isn’t a monument to the millions of people who played Angry Birds on their smartphones for a few months before uninstalling its shallow ass. It’s a monument to thousands of people who have spent years of their life (for some, literally years inside the game) participating in Eve. And not just participating, but generating pretty much all the content in the game. And the resulting stories enjoyed by people who don’t even play the game.

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  40. So much bile and hatred.

    Thank you, CCP, for honoring your players.

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