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Thursday, March 27, 2014

Fit of the Week: Hunter-killer Stratios

"Good artists copy, great artists steal" as the apocryphal quote goes. I've mentioned a time or two on this blog that if you're a PvP'er, you should definitely look through the loss-mails of pilots you admire for ships for which you want good fittings. I do this all the time and I'm gonna do it again this week.

Rote Kapelle isn't much of a black ops hot-dropping alliance -- we prefer fights -- but we do it from time to time. I usually fly a little max tackle Proteus I designed; it's intended to keep the victims from escaping. But the last couple of times we did it, I was really intrigued by a Stratios brought by my alliance-mate Ben Booley. It did monstrous damage, felt pretty tanky when it came under attack, and of course, it's currently the best-looking ship in the game. He shared the fit with me of course, but recently he shared the fit with everyone else, too...

I really like this fit! Couldn't have come up with much better myself.

[Stratios, Ben Booley]
Damage Control II
Imperial Navy Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Drone Damage Amplifier II
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Experimental 10MN Microwarpdrive I
Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Omnidirectional Tracking Link II, Optimal Range Script
Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 400

Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M
Focused Medium Pulse Laser II, Conflagration M

Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

Garde II x4


First, DPS is heavily weighted to the drone side and comes from Gardes, double DDAs, double tracking links, and the ship's own bonuses. So once you've landed on your target, get your drones out right away, either right before you start locking targets or right after. Fit this way and with the four guns overheated, your DPS is well over 700. That's freakin' monstrous for a cloaky ship, and unheard of for a cloaky cruiser. Prepare to be top damage dealer on most hot drops. Obviously, trade out the Conflag ammo for faction Multifrequency for sub-battleship targets, but...

...you have another option. The ship is somewhat slow for a cruiser at 1300m/s or so but you do have the option of swapping out to Scorch ammo and kiting at point range. This only reduces your DPS by 50 or so and does increase your survivability somewhat if the hot drop victims call in friends. If this happens and you want to bug out, don't worry about scooping your drones. Gardes are cheap compared to the ship itself and you can (and should) carry a backup set. That's why I'm only listing one-quarter of the capacity of the drone bay. You should probably carry a set of four Curators. You should probably carry a set of EC drones of your choice and a set of light drones of your choice. But it would also be a good idea to carry a spare set of Gardes. Those are your bread and butter attack drones.

You will want to use lasers mostly to keep your cargo bay free for lot, of which you will collect quite a lot. ;-)

A faction point is completely totally optional. I list it because Booley carries it and I want to stay true to his fit for the purpose of this blog post. But it's really not necessary at all. The main thing it buys you is the ability to overheat longer and to use Scorch to the limit of your point range and vice versa. I'd call the cap booster required, though. The Stratios is a cap-hungry ship.

Tank is provided by a plate, DC, rigs, and a faction EANM. That last really is non-optional and increases your survivability tremendously. So don't skimp! Ditto on the T2 rigs. They're remarkably cheap right now and you're only hurting yourself and your rather sizable investment in the hull by not protecting it adequately. With a squad booster, tank is around 56k EHP with quite good resists.

Recommended boosters for this ship are Quafe Zero (when you're hot dropping things, you want to lock them quickly, plus the speed boost really helps this ship) and Drop of your choice to help somewhat sub-par laser tracking. I don't usually recommend implants, but this is a ship that really benefits from both a 'Rogue' Navigation NN-6 series implant in slot six and a 'Squire' Energy Management EM-8 series implant in slot eight. Forgo the DPS implant for slot eight unless you use it for other ships. Your lasers aren't providing enough of the DPS for that implant to help too much.

And that's it! This is a pretty nasty little hunting ship and also works pretty well for cloaky roaming. It slots very nicely into the position previously occupied by the cloaky Vagabond and Cynabal fits that were popular for a long while: heavy DPS for behind-enemy-lines hunting gangs. It's expensive, yes, but it's capabilities and survivability warrant the expense. It's somewhat ironic that such a dedicated hunter-killer flies the Sisters of EVE logo but irony is what EVE is all about, you know?

My thanks to Ben Booley for the fine fit! Sorry for stealing it. ;-)


All Fits of the Week are intended as general guidelines only.  You may not have the skills needed for this exact fit.  If you do not, feel free to adjust the fit to suit to meet your skills, including using meta 3 guns and "best named" defenses and e-war.  Ships can also be adjusted to use faction or dead-space modules depending on the budget of the pilot flying it.  Each FOTW is intended as a general guide to introduce you to concepts that will help you fit and to fly that particular type of ship more aggressively and well. 

18 comments:

  1. The factionpoint is not optional. Its the only part where you can spare enough cpu to make the fitting match.

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    1. Eh, there are other ways around that. An IFFA instead of a DC2, for instance.

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    2. I was going to say the same thing, but... you *could* swap the Imperial Navy EANM for an Imperial Navy Adaptive Nano Plate. Resists drop about 2% across the board (still quite good), which is a fair trade for the additional fifty million you're not paying for the Faction EANM.

      Between dropping the faction point and switching a faction resist plate in for the faction EAMN, you've got an almost-as-good fit that costs roughly 180 to 200 million less.

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  2. Good writers borrow. Great writers steal. Amazing writers kidnap. Shakespeare had a death camp.

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  3. With Genolution Core Implants, it's possible to fit a T2 1600mm Plate.

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    1. Genos and slaves mix poorly. Just saying.

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    2. Not even using slaves you still get the 65k ehp with Geno's and the T2 plate and a cheap deadspace hardener. Still saving 500m since you aren't using Slaves.

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    3. Derp, only 58k. However, this would be in instance where you might reach that mythical almost the same tank for using a 5% PG implant in that 6th implant slot over a slave set.

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    4. In Fact, If you go with Slaves 1 - 5, and a 5% PG implant instead of a full slave set, the T2 plate fits, and you have 72k EHP

      [Stratios, 5%pg implant better than Omega Slave]
      Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II

      10mn Digital Booster Rockets
      Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
      Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
      Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
      Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200

      Damage Control II
      1600mm Reinforced Steel Plates II
      Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
      Drone Damage Amplifier II
      Drone Damage Amplifier II

      Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
      Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
      Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

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    5. Taking it even further, you can make the fit work with the Slave Omega, by swapping back into the Meta 4 1600mm plate.

      [Stratios, Blops Full HG Slaves, Digital Booster Rockets, Meta 4 1600mm Plate]
      Damage Control II
      1600mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Titanium
      Corpum C-Type Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane
      Drone Damage Amplifier II
      Drone Damage Amplifier II

      10mn Digital Booster Rockets
      Republic Fleet Warp Disruptor
      Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
      Omnidirectional Tracking Link II
      Small Capacitor Booster II, Navy Cap Booster 200

      Covert Ops Cloaking Device II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II
      Focused Medium Pulse Laser II

      Medium Anti-Explosive Pump II
      Medium Trimark Armor Pump II
      Medium Trimark Armor Pump II

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  4. Too bad that only null sec based players can afford such a ship with the June nerfs to high sec coming. I built a Stratios hull some months ago. Looks like I will be selling it off, as well as a lot of other stuff, in order to keep playing Eve, once you and the other null sec cartel members are done with high sec. And clearly, you are a member of that cadre since you LOVE (you word, not mine) the destruction of high sec mission running, and after analysis, high sec T1 manufacturing.

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    1. Dinsdale - seriously.

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    2. Can I have your stuff?

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    3. An player unaffiliated with a nullsec alliance could easily make enough money in Faction Warfare to buy one of these. Just sayin'.

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    4. From personal experience, from the mission-running I've done, including running a Noctis behind a Maelstrom, my salvage profit came almost entirely from the inherently valuable loot drops (as opposed to the loot drops that are better off melted down) and the rig components salvaged from the wrecks. Neither of those are being touched this time around, though the prices of the less-valuable meta drops will be decreasing. As for hisec mining, from what I can tell, the absolute yields will be pretty much a push for a dedicated industrialist. I wouldn't have minded if they'd gone with a smaller yield nerf, so that the push level would be for the non-implanted fully-skilled industrialist rather than the implanted industrialist, and I'll grant that absolute yields in null will increase due to outposts, but as far as I can tell, it's not a hellish nerf to hisec industry unless you look at the whole of New Eden as a zero-sum game.

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  5. If you are hunting pve ships, I think you would be way better off with

    1) Dual point - no scram, no killing mjd ships
    2) Probe launcher
    3) neuts instead of lasers

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    1. This is for blops drops. If something is going to MJD out, it's going to MJD out before you load. That's why your tackle has probes and a scram. You could fit 2 medium and 2 small neuts instead of the lasers, but that'd require you to be within 12/6k, a very dangerous spot if it turns out to be bait. It's also neuting an incredibly marginal amount that's unlikely to make any difference in the speed that something gets killed.

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  6. I built three of these when the prices where so high before building one for myself when the prices dropped down from the initial highs. Awesome ship. I like the frigate SOE ship as well and then they went a screwed up the BS version. Why did they put that stupid ring on the front - just looks stupid. Should of been on the back-end like the Stratios. Talk about a ugly Battleship.

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