So it was a lot of fun reading the debate he's currently having in the Syndicate thread of the Failheap Challenge forum, and it's the source of the quote of the week:
Ehh yeah, call me a bitch, then, heh. I'm still insanely new to this game but I really, really hate the cyno mechanic. It seems like it destroys so much of the strategic side of the game. The idea that you can move an entire carrier/dread fleet from one end of the galaxy to the other in 10 minutes just doesn't sit well with me.OK... it seems to have taken Destiny about 20 minutes to figure out EVE Online. ;-)
Yeah, I shouldn't kid. Cynos and the power projection they engender is one of the thorniest problems in EVE Online. But it's funny to me how quickly he slammed into it... and decided that it hurts. And if that's where the discussion had stopped, it would be a fun quote, I could quote it, and move on.
But then Destiny chose this forum, this thead, and this audience with which to get philosophical (condensed somewhat):
I guess we'll see if that changes or not, but I have zero draw to meaningless fights. It's just not my specific approach to the game. I can definitely understand how other people are into fights and that getting on killmails etc...is really exciting to people, but it means nothing to me to fly a ship around in a big fight and shoot at stuff. I need there to be real meaning behind the fights....aheh. Remember most people go to Syndicate to get away from sov fights. And here's Destiny (whose corp has been living there) advocating for them! And he does so in what is to that audience a likely unintentionally insulting way: by saying that people who want meaningless PvP should play some other game! Whoops!
Again, I understand people enjoy raw PvP, but if I just wanted to fight, I'd go back to Starcraft. I'm looking for something a little bit deeper or more meaningful to me. That's what's cool about Eve, though, yeah? Everyone can play how they want. :-)
He hardly could have chosen a worse place to express this philosophy and a couple of the residents of the Syndicate thread at FHC responded with all the charity, respect, and class for which they are so justifiably famous.
The argument goes back and forth for a few pages, with Destiny giving every bit as good as he gets (or better).(1) But then if the quote at the top wasn't good enough for one week, he lets fly with this piece of pure freakin' gold:
It's "supposed" to be a sandbox, but everyone insists on people following their own paths. Everyone wants people to do the same things they're doing, and they're very against anyone doing anything outside of an established "trend". It's especially funny (to me) when a game markets itself as a sandbox but the community vehemently wages war against anything outside of what they consider to be the "proper way" to play.Errr... not only did it take Destiny 20 minutes to state his objection to one of the thorniest problems in EVE Online, it took him about ten more minutes to figure out a good solid majority of the community, too...
Finally, he had one other thing to say that I don't understand:
I don't think I'll ever become a bittervet in this game. If it wasn't fun, I'd just stop playing. :bI'm not sure I understand these phrases "fun" or "stop playing." Can someone explain them to me? ;-)
Anyway, if you have a half-hour or so, go read the thread for a while. There's lots and lots more out there and most of it is extremely entertaining (if somewhat NSFW in parts). The fun bits start on page 14 and don't wrap up until page 23.
(1) My particular favorite thing he says during this section: "'Surviving' in Syndicate, from what I've seen, is being a bitter, inactive theory-crafter who spends more time sitting in station shit-posting on forums than actually doing anything in game. I've played too many games at too high levels to listen to people who are clearly past enjoying the game and have moved on to shitting up forums all day while doing nothing." LOL... wow.