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Wednesday, January 2, 2013

Fit of the Week: Brawler Algos

I wanted my first FOTW of the new year to be my favorite of the new destroyer hulls.  And it was almost the Corax.  But at the end of the day, even with its drawbacks, it's hard to argue with how shockingly wonderful the Algos is.

[Algos, Brawler]
Pseudoelectron Containment Field I
200mm Reinforced Rolled Tungsten Plates I
Drone Damage Amplifier II

Limited 1MN Microwarpdrive I
J5b Phased Prototype Warp Scrambler I
Fleeting Propulsion Inhibitor I

Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Light Ion Blaster II, Caldari Navy Antimatter Charge S
Small 'Knave' Energy Drain

Small Anti-Explosive Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I
Small Trimark Armor Pump I

Hornet EC-300 x5
Hammerhead II x2
Hobgoblin II x3

I was bitching a bit over the weekend about the drone MWD speed bonus the Algos gets and how that makes it difficult for the Hobs to latch onto their target.  Know what?  Even if you completely disregard the Hobs, the Algos almost does more DPS than any other destroyer or frigate hull.  It doesn't, but it's a very close thing.  And if you can get the Hob damage to apply, this fit does between 400 and 425 DPS... off a destroyer hull.

AGONY Unleashed used to run a destroyer fleet-based PvP class called Wolfpacks.  The Algos was made for this class.  Know how to make it even scarier?  Invite a few of the new Navitas or Inquisitor remote armor rep frigates along.  It's going to be a while before FCs really see these two boats for their capabilities.  The Navitas has better speed; the Inquisitor has better tank.  But either one of these add 160 DPS to this Algos's tanking ability while they ply their 400 DPS trade.

I'm seeing a lot of railgun kiting Algos fits and yeah, those are fun.  But... c'mon.  It's a destroyer.  It really wants to be up close and personal and I have a weakness for green and covered with blasters.  Besides, an easy way to make that drone MWD bonus less annoying is to get a web or three on your primary.  If you were going to go with bunches of these, I'd fit half with webs, half with Tracking Disruptors just to make the enemy fleet's life a living hell.

Overheat your MWD and your scram as you close.  Your ultimate goal is a 750m close orbit around your target, preferably attained through manual flying.  You can release your drones pretty early thanks to that drone MWD buff but be prepared for a bit of annoyance as the Hobs take a while to settle into something even approaching a steady orbit that allows them to apply their DPS.  If it annoys you too much, go with three Hammerheads and one Hobgoblin instead.  Amusingly, this is one situation where having lower drone skills is actually an advantage.  This bonus didn't bother me as much when I flew it on a character with Drone Navigation IV.

Once you're in close, you fly this thing just like a somewhat bigger, somewhat tankier T1 frigate.  Close-range blasters with faction anti-matter against frigates or cruisers, or Void once you have the target webbed or against otherwise big slow targets.  The tracking bonus the Algos receives really helps here.  Remember to shut down your MWD and shut down the overheating on your scram once you're in range.  As I said above, manual piloting is going to be the way to go.  Zoom in close and stay as close as you can to your target.  Once your first target dies, use the spiral technique to approach the next one.

If you don't mind sacrificing 10% of your DPS and you have perfect fitting skills, you can replace the Drone Damage Amplifier with an Energized Adaptive Nano Membrane and make yourself really difficult to peel off.  This would be a good option in a large fleet of Algoses or if you have lots of reps available.  And a small fleet of these with some rep frigates really is the way to go.  The rep frigates can all carry one Warrior II and assign it to the Algos of their choice to get them on all the kill mails while they work.

Right before you get into your first fight of the evening, consume a Synth X-Instinct booster.  But don't carry any more than the one in cargo; you probably won't be living long enough to use a second one.  ;-)  This ship also benefits from implants that increase ship speed and agility.  If you fly it that way, make destroying bubblers a priority if roaming in null-sec.  That's not exactly going to be a problem though, since an Algos can take apart a typical Sabre in 15 seconds once you have him tackled...

Playing with all these new ships has been fun, but I think I'll go back to PvE and support ships for a few weeks.  In the meantime, happy destroying!

All Fits of the Week are intended as general guidelines only.  You may not have the skills needed for this exact fit.  If you do not, feel free to adjust the fit to suit to meet your skills, including using meta 3 guns and "best named" defenses and e-war.  Ships can also be adjusted to use faction or dead-space modules depending on the budget of the pilot flying it.  Each FOTW is intended as a general guide to introduce you to concepts that will help you fit and to fly that particular type of ship more aggressively and well.


  1. Here's another video to explain spiralling by azual when he was still with agony. http://youtu.be/WT8VqVcLDqc

    As for the agony wolfpack class, the guys and girls of pvp-u are actually looking into restructuring the class to fit in the new destroyers and all the changes that have happened this past year and a bit.

    There should be a new one scheduled soon(tm)

    We probably won't be introducing the logi frigs to the wolfpacks. They are indeed very powerful but ultimately it would add yet another chunk of stuff to explain in the class itself. It was certainly considered though.

    In practice the new logi frigs and t1 logi cruisers are quickly getting integrated into fleets, they are a great new force multiplier.

    It is interesting to see how damps are now also quickly becoming more useful, since logi supported fleets have to be more wary of range and position then your normal fleet with no dedicated support.

  2. *grumble grumble* I'll be honest I was hoping for the Corax cause that is the one I enjoy more, abet I can't use blasters so that could be part of it.

  3. We've been using Navitas in support of dual prop AF gangs from the day that the patch went live, very effective.

  4. After seeing your fit here, and with some recent changes in doctrines with Gentleman's Agreement, we decided to take the Algos and spin it in a shield variant in lieu or armor.

    We added some frigate support to the destroyer fleet namely ECM from Griffins and logistics from Bursts.

    Today was the day The Algea fleet was christened. Pretty dead roam until we found some renters in Geminate. Fell for the logoffski dictor.

    -1 Rorqual http://gents.eve-kill.net/?a=kill_detail&kll_id=15882450

    Fraps http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxRQewdEF2Y&feature=youtu.be


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